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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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Confusion.  
Mandatory mental health check ups will reduce mental health problems?
I mean we don't have to be geniuses to figure this out.
Mandatory mental health checks will invariably lead to more mental health problems.
Just like more police stations will invariably lead to a higher crime rate.
I mean I understand the effort to help people, but to force people to be helped will only lead to a higher statistical rate of mental health problems. And knowing that Koreans & their media love to engage in global comparisons and care a great deal about their global, this will simply lead to more stress related to the high rate of mental problems.
I mean with the few isolated cases of Koreans snapping and killing folks abroad, the country already looks pretty mental to begin with. Now they want to make it statistically factual?
Am I the only one confused by this idea? |
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Emark
Joined: 10 May 2007
Location: duh, Korea?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:05 am Post subject: |
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i was thinking the same thing but felt i'd better not be the one to bring it up and risk being called a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.... again.... or inspire a slew of responses about how the gov and health care system IS NOT A MONOLITH!  |
We should hang out together and watch the latest you tube uploads about Nubira and do some Korea "prepping". I could use some help making a new double thick hat and wrapping my PC hardware in same tin foil to protect it from the coming sun flares!
Haha. Like I'm serious.
Got your gold and silver ready? |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| thinking about it makes me even more depressed than i already was. |
Not to worry...apparently they will have testing and prescribe meds for that soon enough.  |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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just because they use the word citizens in the paper doesn't mean it's only for citizens. Remember, everyone in Korea on the national insurance is required to get a physical every year or two - this is probably the same deal. If you're on the NHIC, you'll probably get a call about this at some point. I wouldn't put ANY stock in the writing/translating ability of the KT.  |
It'd be funny to watch barely-fluent-in-English doctors interview foreigners about their mental state. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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I have a hard time believing that there are enough decent head shrinkers in Korea to test the whole population.
And I agree with the big pharma angle. A year ago my Korean nephew's school insisted that he start taking some behavior medications. I was shocked that this crappy practice had made its way to Korea. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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orosee
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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ESL is dead.
The next wave will be psych PhD's from all over the World. If you own a hagwon, prepare (start by calling it "Hagwon & Clinic").
Personally I think that there's nothing a shrink can do that a good hooker couldn't do better. +10 if I can book 50% on my health insurance. |
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow! Mandatory mental health checks? No concept of personal rights or civil liberties here is there? |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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This is the way I see it.
Korean Big Pharma wants to start pushing medication to a sector that is untouched. If Korean society can be medically assessed as needing some thing to reduce stress, that probably billions of won every year. Not long after, Koreans will be discovered to be every bit as depressed as the rest of the world. Trillions of won later in profits, Koreans will no longer be weirded out by foreigners that take meds.
Way to go Korea, fall for another western trap! You swallowed McDonalds whole up, now go after the meds! Good luck!
Anyone wanting to play the stocks better get in on the Korean Pharmaceuticals now before the mass profits come it! I gotta call my broker! |
i was thinking the same thing but felt i'd better not be the one to bring it up and risk being called a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.... again.... or inspire a slew of responses about how the gov and health care system IS NOT A MONOLITH! after all, i already went out on a limb and made the mental leap that the korean gov will also "let" waiguks take this "manditory" mental health checkup along with korean citizens, even though it was not stated in the article. you're probably too late to call your broker, as i'm sure all korean lawmakers and their relatives have already bought up all the shares by now. thinking about it makes me even more depressed than i already was. |
Actually the biggest problem in Asia is undiagnosed mental illness.
Contrary to popular belief; many people need pills and mental help.
Every Asian psychologist I met lament's the negative stigma against mental illness recognition.
But....nah....pills are evil. Those people who comitted suicide? Just weaklings who couldn't handle the pressure of life 
Depression?! Total myth made by cons with PhDs....When you get a Psychotherapist license you also get 50 shares in a any pharmceutical company of your choice! Tru story bro  |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
I have a hard time believing that there are enough decent head shrinkers in Korea to test the whole population.
And I agree with the big pharma angle. A year ago my Korean nephew's school insisted that he start taking some behavior medications. I was shocked that this crappy practice had made its way to Korea. |
a psychiatrist doesn't need to talk you through the mysterious caverns of your mind and get you to confront your fears... they just need to spot your symptoms, look them up in the ever expanding manual of mental disorders, and then look up what drugs to prescribe. kaching!
ps. i do beleive that there are people who benefit from taking prescription medication, but if you look up the numbers... of how many people, children especially, are being told they need them i can only come to one of two conclusions...
1.the closer the universe gets to entropy the more crazy people get. or
2.the gov and big pharm are in cahoots to get people hooked to make alot of money off their suffering.
The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry by Jon Ronson is a very interesting read about this phenomenon. http://www.amazon.com/The-Psychopath-Test-Journey-Industry/dp/1594485755/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1340694922&sr=1-1&keywords=the+psychopath+test
one interesting fact i remember from the book is that the actual test they give to prisoners to determine whether or not they are a psychopath and keep them locked up forever, was given to many nonprisoners and the ones who scored the highest(meaning most likely to be psychopaths)were politicians and CEO's.LOL i'm not kidding, you can't make this stuff up. |
If anything society needs more pills not less...
Most of the criticism of modern psychotherapy and psychologists tends to come from...
Scientology funded PR and front companies
Journalists on a slow news day
TV sitcoms
New age healing practitioners(aka, cons)
If you go to a doctor requesting pills and are on the fence, they'll usually ask you to think about or give you a sample, tiny dosage. If they think your faking(many junkies do) they'll kick you out the office. Most doctors do not want to be known as the "pill" doctor unless they enjoy meeting dope heads.
They don't get you to sign up for 12 month subscription....infact, trying to get more 2-4 weeks prescription is a real pain on some drugs. So much for the big pharma conspiracy.
Something about pills and mental health brings out the tin foil hat people like nothing else. Probaly becuase they ironically aren't taking anything for the nagging case of paranoid schizophenia.
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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| hint;often it's not the answers you give to questions that matter, but rather your reaction time. if you're too slow, or too fast in responding, you could be a psycho. |
How are they going to accurately measure my response time when the Korean psychologist has to repeat their question a dozen times before I can understand it? |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow! Mandatory mental health checks? No concept of personal rights or civil liberties here is there? |
My first thought as well. Politicians never fail to amaze me with their stupidity and their view of citizens as idiotic children who need to be constantly watched over. Still, I would like to see some details over how this will be carried out before I make harsh judgements.
The good thing is that this is a proposed plan, and there are people who are against it. So maybe it won't pass. I did a bit of reading on this and so far, I'm disappointed for the reasons why people are against it. They're against it for practical reasons (costs too much, not realistic, not effective, etc) rather than on a basis of rights. So as long as its cheap and effective, they don't care that this is an infringement on our civil liberties. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Wow! Mandatory mental health checks? No concept of personal rights or civil liberties here is there? |
My first thought as well. Politicians never fail to amaze me with their stupidity and their view of citizens as idiotic children who need to be constantly watched over. Still, I would like to see some details over how this will be carried out before I make harsh judgements.
The good thing is that this is a proposed plan, and there are people who are against it. So maybe it won't pass. I did a bit of reading on this and so far, I'm disappointed for the reasons why people are against it. They're against it for practical reasons (costs too much, not realistic, not effective, etc) rather than on a basis of rights. So as long as its cheap and effective, they don't care that this is an infringement on our civil liberties. |
Mental illness is viewed as such an embarrasment here that it's rarely treated.
Hence these measures to fix that.
Ever wonder why so many people have problems with hagwon bosses. Geez perhaps some of them could use a visit to a psychiatrist? |
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DIsbell
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:24 am Post subject: |
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The wording in the article is poor; I imagine it'll just be part of the annual NHIC check. Korea seems to have a large hidden problem with mental health (high suicide, stress, and unhappiness rates with a culture that harshly stigmatizes mental problems). While we don't want to see every energetic kid doped up on pills, as teachers we've probably seen some kids with legitimate problems that don't get any sort of mental health assistance. It's probably a good thing that the government is finally deciding to do something about it. Making mental health checks a blanket thing will reduce a lot of stigma- if everyone has to get a check, no one will be gossiped about for talking to a psych.
And just because America does something and has some related problems doesn't mean that Korea will have the exact same problems. For example, Korea has hundreds of McD's and Burger Kings and plentiful selections of soda, but the obesity rate isn't near what America deals with. Conversely, in spite of having an excellent public transportation infrastructure, Korea also has a lot of cars and freeways like America, but actually have worse problems with auto-related fatalities and pollution. I guess my point is that everything doesn't need to be compared to America. |
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