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U.S. Bank Acct that can take international transfers?
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tooseoulful



Joined: 10 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: U.S. Bank Acct that can take international transfers? Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

I've been accepted to EPIK and will be departing in August. I have a question regarding banking, not in Korea, but rather in the U.S. I should preface this by saying that I've done numerous searches on this forum and others, but haven't found a conclusive answer because I think my situation is kind of strange.

I bank with Charles Schwab, and my broker says I'll have to shut down my account before leaving for Korea because the bank requires me to have a current U.S. address and because it will generate interest while I'm gone, which is an IRS issue. Besides, my Schwab account can't process international transfers at ALL, so there would be no way for me to send money home. Big problem! I do have the option of using my brokerage account, but that quickly becomes complicated and has a lot of limitations.

My question is whether anyone has suggestions on banks (preferably with low fees) that would accept international transfers? I've read good things about HSBC and Citi Bank. It would be especially helpful if anyone knew of a bank that avoided the long chain of bank-hopping that I know happens often when transferring money from Korea back to the U.S.

Thanks in advance!
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shostahoosier



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's strange as Schwab is one of the more popular accounts here in Korea.

Your Schwab checking account wont be able to accept incoming international transfers but you can set up a brokerage account with them (for free) that accepts international wires and doesn't charge for it.

I've lived in Korea for almost 3 years with a Schwab account. Just give them your parent's address.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bank of America or Citibank
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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any reason in particular you want to use the 'Too Bad, I mean Big, To Fail' All-Stars? My experience with ALL of the major national US banks has been terrible. Unless you have seven figures in an account, you are nothing to them but a fee-extraction machine.

AVOID Citi, Chase, Wells Fargo, HSBC, Capital One and ESPECIALLY BoA [by far the worst of the bunch]. Why not use one of the middle-ranking, regional ones? They are just as workable for receiving incoming transfers. I use Fifth Third and their service has been excellent. Also there's PNC, Regions, Suntrust, Citizens, Comercia, BOK, KeyBank....tons of choices. Just pick one with a good branch network where you live now.

And as for the address thing, yes, just use a relative or friend who isn't planning to move. They don't need to know the truth. Get a PO box and use that for receiving mail/tax info.
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It would be especially helpful if anyone knew of a bank that avoided the long chain of bank-hopping that I know happens often when transferring money from Korea back to the U.S.

AFAIK this doesn't exist. Even people who use Citi here in Korea still have to pay a 'phantom bank' [aka Standard Chartered] to 'process' their transfer to a US Citi account. I believe ALL Korean overseas transfers are subject to this cost. You just have to deal with that, ideally by limiting your transfers to minimize the total fees paid.
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soomin



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:

AFAIK this doesn't exist. Even people who use Citi here in Korea still have to pay a 'phantom bank' [aka Standard Chartered] to 'process' their transfer to a US Citi account. I believe ALL Korean overseas transfers are subject to this cost. You just have to deal with that, ideally by limiting your transfers to minimize the total fees paid.


Definitely... transferring money is a sad day... literally throwing hundreds of dollars into the trash... Also, you should know that if you transfer more than 10,000 USD, you will have to pay taxes on it.
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soomin wrote:
Modernist wrote:

AFAIK this doesn't exist. Even people who use Citi here in Korea still have to pay a 'phantom bank' [aka Standard Chartered] to 'process' their transfer to a US Citi account. I believe ALL Korean overseas transfers are subject to this cost. You just have to deal with that, ideally by limiting your transfers to minimize the total fees paid.


Definitely... transferring money is a sad day... literally throwing hundreds of dollars into the trash... Also, you should know that if you transfer more than 10,000 USD, you will have to pay taxes on it.


This isn't true. You will be taxed in Korea on the interest but not a taxed to bring money to US if you have filled tax returns. The US does not want to tax money coming into the US. They want money to come to the US. They will tax large amounts it if you wire them out of the US though.
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's the law that all U.S. banks have to have an American address on their customers - so as someone else suggested, just give your parents' address or someone you can trust. then opt for online statements, if you haven't already done so.

I can recommend U.S. Bank; their online system is top-notch which to me is important when traveling abroad. also their fees are very reasonable, including acceptance of wire-transfers, around $11 - it varies depending on how often transfers are done.
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soomin



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No_hite_pls wrote:

This isn't true. You will be taxed in Korea on the interest but not a taxed to bring money to US if you have filled tax returns. The US does not want to tax money coming into the US. They want money to come to the US. They will tax large amounts it if you wire them out of the US though.


Good to know... the bank told me that transferring amounts over 10,000 USD would result in a fine... Is this incorrect? Also, I don't file tax returns in the States because I don't make any money there and don't live there.
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cedarseoul



Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

luckylady wrote:
it's the law that all U.S. banks have to have an American address on their customers - so as someone else suggested, just give your parents' address or someone you can trust. then opt for online statements, if you haven't already done so.

I can recommend U.S. Bank; their online system is top-notch which to me is important when traveling abroad. also their fees are very reasonable, including acceptance of wire-transfers, around $11 - it varies depending on how often transfers are done.


I second US Bank. Wires always go through in 24 hours. I've been banking with them for 4+ years in Korea, many wire transfers, never had a problem.
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soomin wrote:
No_hite_pls wrote:

This isn't true. You will be taxed in Korea on the interest but not a taxed to bring money to US if you have filled tax returns. The US does not want to tax money coming into the US. They want money to come to the US. They will tax large amounts it if you wire them out of the US though.


Good to know... the bank told me that transferring amounts over 10,000 USD would result in a fine... Is this incorrect? Also, I don't file tax returns in the States because I don't make any money there and don't live there.



the 10,000 mark was conceived some years ago in regards to major drug deals and money laundering. all it means is if you carry $10,001 dollars out of the country, or wire it out, whatever, even if you are in the U.S. and withdraw that amount from a bank (for whatever reason) you have to fill out some paperwork and declare it, that's all.

there's no fine UNLESS you don't declare it.

now, all that being said, KOREA might indeed have a limit on how much won you can convert and transfer out of KOREA. I've been to countries where there was indeed, a real limit on how much of the local currency I could change into dollars - even tho I'm an American and one time, even tho I was leaving that country.

every country is different. there could be a miscommunication here and what's being referred to is Korean won. once I was leaving Korea on a flight and had travelers' checks in my bag, in a special wallet for airline tkts, pp, etc. I went through security and this fellow came over and asked if he could check my bag. I said sure here - he opened it up and went straight into that wallet - pulled out the travelers' checks and counted them then and there. he had seen them on the scanner and wanted to know how much I was carrying. when he was satisfied (there was only about $1000), he handed it back to me and that was that.

so this is another good reason not to let all your won pile up in a Korean bank if you know sooner or later you'll be leaving; that last month alone you can wind up transferring as much as 6-7000 dollars, even more, so try to do it in increments.
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tooseoulful



Joined: 10 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the informative responses, everyone! I have set up an account with Citi because their Global Transfers program will allow me to wire money out, or receive it, at no fee. Of course, I'll still have to pay the fees at my Korean bank and any intermediary banks, but at least it'll be free on the U.S. side. Plus, Citi's transfers process the same day, which will avoid that 5-7 day window from which many banks suffer. I also checked with HSBC but their fee schedule was unpleasant ($15 and $30 to send and receive transfers, on top of other banks' fees).

On the Schwab note, I think I'll take the advice given here so as to avoid shutting down my account, which will be a hassle. I'm also "converting" my brokerage account so I can use it if needed.

I've read several times about the confusion on the $10k cash limit, and definitely don't plan on carrying that much paper on the plane. That's what banks are for. Smile

Thanks again!
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davai!



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep your Schwab account.


On payday in Korea, go to the bank and get Travelers Checks. (Don't let them stamp your passport)

Fill them out to YOURSELF, then endorse (sign the back) them with "FOR DEPOSIT ONLY" AND YOUR Citi ACCOUNT # on them.

AIRMAIL them with a deposit slip DIRECTLY to the branch at which you opened the account.

Total cost: 650 won (stamp) + 300 won (envelope) + 1 week in transit.

Once that hits your account, do an online transfer to Schwab.
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Pablo



Joined: 15 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

davai! wrote:
On payday in Korea, go to the bank and get Travelers Checks. (Don't let them stamp your passport)


Hi Davai,

Could you explain what the "stamp your passport" part is about? Thank you.
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davai!



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banks (as well as the ROK government) want to keep track of your exchanges, so they sometimes stamp the dates and amounts in the last page of your passport.

This is, however, not a law, just bank policies. They will tell you it is a law, so not to break with bank policy and because they are intimidated by having to use English.

But this sort of stamping is prohibited by your and all governments. The USA passport explicitly states that it can only be stamped by foreign governments for exit/entry purposes only. You can show the bank that page, or just give them a copy.
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Pablo



Joined: 15 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

davai! wrote:
Banks (as well as the ROK government) want to keep track of your exchanges, so they sometimes stamp the dates and amounts in the last page of your passport.

This is, however, not a law, just bank policies. They will tell you it is a law, so not to break with bank policy and because they are intimidated by having to use English.

But this sort of stamping is prohibited by your and all governments. The USA passport can only be stamped by foreign governments for exit/entry purposes only.



Thanks Davai. So how do you usually keep them from stamping it? Particularly if one doesn't speak Korean?
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