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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
Welcome to life as a working person. You could change jobs but honestly most jobs are stressful. My father's certainly was. Why do you think men live 8 years less than women? The answer is work stress, You need to find more effective ways of dealing with stress; go hiking, lift weights, go for good run.
The other problem us expats have to deal with is cultural differences stress. We are always on show and judged. This is extremley stressful. This is one reason I want to leave the expat lifestyle someday. |
You're absolutely right about the cultural stress. I told my wife exactly what you said before about "put on show" every time I step out my door. It's like a stage with a spotlight on me at all times. All attention and stares on me. Just gets annoying sometimes and times that by 10 if I'm out with my wife. |
That's because you don't matter. People over here know damn well that there's a powerful elite in the West - bankers and big business in it with the military. Most of the people here have the little green man / victim complex about that, and target their rage at you out of jealousy even though you're not a powerful member of any club and probably are less powerful than them. They just need someone to vent at, and it's you - actually they target your wife out of cowardice, and because they are lower than low. It's the ultimate cheap shot but it's acceptable here. Just remind yourself why they do it - because they're Losers. |
What a pile of crap. Do you actually literally believe what you have written here? If so, go and get a mental check-up. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jonpurdy wrote: |
Two suggestions: additional training and exercise.
If you don't have a TEFL or any certs at all, maybe look into getting them. After two years of teaching there I got my TEFL for the pay bump but ended up learning a bit as well and forcing me to rethink some of the stuff that I did. Alternatively, grab a book or two on ESL teaching and see if you can get some ideas from the book. Kids often misbehave due to boredom; and if you're bored, they probably are too. So you could kill two birds with one stone by spicing up your lessons. Finally, if you don't already, try to make your class a more student-centered one. Start off with a brief intro but get them doing group activities very quickly. This is fun for them and saves you from having to manage them while you give them a long lesson. If you've already done all of this (which you might have since you've probably been teaching for awhile) I apologize.. |
He's a certified teacher. |
lol how did you know that? |
You've mentioned it a few times in the past, I figured I'd just nip the sanctimonious TEFL trainee advice in the bud.
| pegasus64128 wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Even on a site with surplus of paranoia, this is one of the most paranoid posts I've ever read. |
Good.
Justifiably so. I'm not blind. |
It wouldn't matter if you were, what with your psychic powers.
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| luckylady wrote: |
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Secondly, get to the gym and lift some weights. Or go for a run/bike/swim. Exercise is the easiest way to reduce stress and make yourself healthier. Even though some days you just feel way too tired just go and you'll end up feeling much better over time. And do what you like to do; if lifting weights is boring then swim. I hate running so I bike instead.
My apologies if these things seem overly obvious but I figured I'd throw them out there. |
this is actually excellent advice.
I, too, developed hypertension after moving overseas. always had very low pressure before, was shocked when I was told about it.
how do you get to work ? can you walk further, or ride a bike? same for getting home - try to take time in your commute to just stretch your legs and relax; it will help a lot.
the point is to get your bp under control first, then work on the stress that's causing it. try not to raise your voice, that definitely makes it go up. work on other techniques to get the students' attention and always, always remind yourself that it is YOUR health that's more important, not them. |
I walk maybe a kilometer to the bus stop and back each day...but my wife is getting an exercise bike soon for me as well.. Thanks. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| luckylady wrote: |
| jonpurdy wrote: |
Secondly, get to the gym and lift some weights. Or go for a run/bike/swim. Exercise is the easiest way to reduce stress and make yourself healthier. Even though some days you just feel way too tired just go and you'll end up feeling much better over time. And do what you like to do; if lifting weights is boring then swim. I hate running so I bike instead.
My apologies if these things seem overly obvious but I figured I'd throw them out there. |
this is actually excellent advice.
I, too, developed hypertension after moving overseas. always had very low pressure before, was shocked when I was told about it.
how do you get to work ? can you walk further, or ride a bike? same for getting home - try to take time in your commute to just stretch your legs and relax; it will help a lot.
the point is to get your bp under control first, then work on the stress that's causing it. try not to raise your voice, that definitely makes it go up. work on other techniques to get the students' attention and always, always remind yourself that it is YOUR health that's more important, not them. |
luckylady what were your numbers before you came and after? |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: I have Hypertension Now--Stress at the Workplace |
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I work at an after school and for those that do can understand those kids turn a deaf ear to you a lot of times despite you yelling at them to sit down, pay attention, do your work, etc. It stresses me out and on the other hand I could just say, "well I get paid either way if they learn or not," but that's not me--I have to be accountable to the parents I see everyday picking up their kids and ensuring them I'm doing all that I can to teach their kids, and I also have to be accountable to myself and my conscience.
I have become inaudible and invisible most times throughout to many classes and my stress has gone though the roof. It probably doesn't help that I've been teaching the same kids for 2 1/2 years. Maybe I need a change of scenery.
Anyway, I recently had a bad headache (only on one side of my head) in the middle of class this week, with pain and pressure behind my right eye and felt dizzy, sweaty and confused. I thought I was having a freaking stroke right there in the middle of class. I had to walk to the bathroom and splash water on my face. It was kind of scary.
It is absolutely due to stress I believe. I feel depressed because I hate my job but I'm stuck here because my wife has a great job here and I have a baby on the way. I'm 31 year old.
Anyway, I told my wife about it and she insisted I stop with her at the doctor's after work. So I did.
My blood pressure was 150/90 at the doctor's office. It's never been that high, I was always 120's/70's back home. I do weigh 100 kilos though, but I'm tall. I wouldn't say that I'm fat, but could lose 10 kg or so.
Anyway, this kind of freaked me out and the doc put me on some blood pressure pills to get it down. And all the while I'm thinking, "are these kids and occupation even worth all this--my health for God's sake?" It's just gotten to the point each day after the first 2 classes I feel the headache creeping at the door waiting to come out unless I pull back the exertion on my body and voice.
Anyway, keep alert on your blood pressure, we don't need anyone blowing an artery and having a stroke over this profession. One of the most stressful professions (if you take your job seriously and want to make a difference) out there. There's just something about the way kids ignore me even though I'm right in their face that sends my blood pressure through the roof. Sometime I feel why should I even bother and just give them hidden pictures worksheets to do all day. |
Personally, the only way around this is to either change jobs or to rethink your classroom management policy and start laying the proverbial smackdown on the little shits in the class. Once you find a routine and can start holding kids responsible for their actions (and have a workable reward/punishment system in place), it can be quite satisfying walking away knowing that you asserted yourself and kept them in line. |
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pegasus64128

Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| jonpurdy wrote: |
Two suggestions: additional training and exercise.
If you don't have a TEFL or any certs at all, maybe look into getting them. After two years of teaching there I got my TEFL for the pay bump but ended up learning a bit as well and forcing me to rethink some of the stuff that I did. Alternatively, grab a book or two on ESL teaching and see if you can get some ideas from the book. Kids often misbehave due to boredom; and if you're bored, they probably are too. So you could kill two birds with one stone by spicing up your lessons. Finally, if you don't already, try to make your class a more student-centered one. Start off with a brief intro but get them doing group activities very quickly. This is fun for them and saves you from having to manage them while you give them a long lesson. If you've already done all of this (which you might have since you've probably been teaching for awhile) I apologize.. |
He's a certified teacher. |
lol how did you know that? |
You've mentioned it a few times in the past, I figured I'd just nip the sanctimonious TEFL trainee advice in the bud.
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Well, at least I'm not an e-stalker, or paranoid about people being paranoid.
*a-boom-tish* |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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stress is an absolute killer. it causes a myriad of undesirable conditions. fortunately, stress is also mental and can be overcome by changing how you think. it really is that easy if you have the mind to make it that easy. you could do it in a few minutes.
i've noticed you come on the boards and rant about korea a lot, many times without much cognition behind what you are typing. instead of getting upset by where you choose to live and your situation that you are in whether you like it or not, just come to peace with it. korea is not like what you are used to as you already know and believe it or not, just like any other place, there is a rhyme to the reason to everything here whether it makes sense to you or not.
just sit back, take a deep breath, realize that stress will ravage your body and it's not worth it, and that it's all up to you and within your power to not be stressed.
and ultimately, have a great day! 
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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^^ I'll try  |
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definitely maybe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't forget that if you're a big guy, you need your blood pressure checked manually. Your arm circumference could very well be too large to give you an accurate reading on a machine. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
stress is an absolute killer. it causes a myriad of undesirable conditions. fortunately, stress is also mental and can be overcome by changing how you think. it really is that easy if you have the mind to make it that easy. you could do it in a few minutes.
i've noticed you come on the boards and rant about korea a lot, many times without much cognition behind what you are typing. instead of getting upset by where you choose to live and your situation that you are in whether you like it or not, just it just come to peace with it. korea is not like what you are used to as you already know and believe it or not, just like any other place, there is a rhyme to the reason to everything here whether it makes sense to you or not.
just sit back, take a deep breath, realize that stress will ravage your body and it's not worth it, and that it's all up to you and within your power to not be stressed.
and ultimately, have a great day!  |
Good advice, though I'm pretty sure even the most ardent apologist has his wtf Korea days. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Old fat expat

Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Stress is a reaction to your environment. There is a perceived threat and your body is pumping epinephrine and noepinephrine in preparation for your fight or flight response.
Without a fight or flight, these hormones build and are capable of causing serious damage to your body over time. Really serious stuff.
You have 2 choices. Option 1 is to manage your stress. You can manage your stress by exercising (fulfilling a fight/flight response) but this does not lower your epinephrine build-up; it just gives it an outlet. You can manage the amount of stress hormone being built up by using relaxation techniques (breathing-yoga-the new age stuff). These are known as coping techniques and are called secondary interventions.
Option 2 is to change your environment. Better classroom management can achieve this. Leaving the profession will do the same. A cognitive-behavioral intervention (change your outlook) can be helpful, but remember, this is your autonomic system at work which does not always follow cognitive logic. But if a great deal of your stressors are just by living in Korea, then your problem is compounded. Removing the stressor is known as primary intervention.
Primary interventions are more effective but unfortunately, less realistic. You will eventually, one way or another, end up changing your environment, whether you like the change or not. In the short term though, most people go with secondary interventions. They buy you some time while you consider all your options.
Drugs are the quickfix that make lots of cash for large companies, dull your senses, but do little to address the causes. Alcohol might be the worst for long term stress relief.
Hope this helps (someone). |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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luckylady what were your numbers before you came and after? |
can't give specifics other than I was always told by drs that if my bp was any lower it would have been too low - that it was considered borderline low blood pressure - meaning it wasn't even close to being high.
my second year I was hired for ps which is when it was discovered, for the med check - I was really shocked and couldn't believe it but they put me on meds and that's that. after 2 yrs it went up again and they had to change the meds so it wasn't like a temporary event. it's real and it's something I live with.
you have to think positive - and that's that it's been caught in time, you can learn to manage it and can still live a healthy and normal life. kind of like when people discover they are diabetics - I've heard some say it was really the best thing that ever happened to them because then a person learns what's really important and how to take better care of their health.
got to learn to manage the sodium; a LOT of Korean food has high sodium content: kimchi, bean paste, and of course soy sauce. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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stress is an absolute killer. it causes a myriad of undesirable conditions. fortunately, stress is also mental and can be overcome by changing how you think. it really is that easy if you have the mind to make it that easy. you could do it in a few minutes.
i've noticed you come on the boards and rant about korea a lot, many times without much cognition behind what you are typing. instead of getting upset by where you choose to live and your situation that you are in whether you like it or not, just it just come to peace with it. korea is not like what you are used to as you already know and believe it or not, just like any other place, there is a rhyme to the reason to everything here whether it makes sense to you or not.
just sit back, take a deep breath, realize that stress will ravage your body and it's not worth it, and that it's all up to you and within your power to not be stressed.
and ultimately, have a great day!  |
Good advice, though I'm pretty sure even the most ardent apologist has his wtf Korea days. |
ugh. the term "apologist" is so stupid it's overwhelming. the people who use it look just as ridiculous when they do use it. and i hope you weren't referring to me because i'm hardly an apologist. i have my beef with korea too, i just don't rant about it on the internet because it's pointless and i prefer to as i typed above, change my outlook and try to understand whatever situation i'm in instead of basing it off of what i'm used to. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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You've got a full plate.
Try to get at least 360 min. of exercise per week. Include 4+ miles of running (treadmill or otherwise), situps and pushups. Be sure to stretch first.
You've got the F-2. If you have the finances and don't need the key money, steal the more affluent kids from that school and teach them privately. |
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