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s.tickbeat
Joined: 21 Feb 2010
Location: Gimhae
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 Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject: Blacklist at immigration? |
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A friend of mine has a contract that is SUPER shitty, and wants to leave it. However, he's terrified of a clause in the contract demanding 6 weeks notice of termination, or the director will somehow blacklist him immigration?
Anyway I told him that it's not possible. Immigration doesn't care, and the same clause in GEPIK/EPIK/SMOE contracts is a blacklist with those organizations and/or public school boards.
But just in case. . . can immigration block an E-2 applicant from obtaining another visa from out of country (after the previous one expires, of course) on the basis of having broken contract?
Just checking. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Blacklist at immigration? |
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| s.tickbeat wrote: |
A friend of mine has a contract that is SUPER shitty, and wants to leave it. However, he's terrified of a clause in the contract demanding 6 weeks notice of termination, or the director will somehow blacklist him immigration?
Anyway I told him that it's not possible. Immigration doesn't care, and the same clause in GEPIK/EPIK/SMOE contracts is a blacklist with those organizations and/or public school boards.
But just in case. . . can immigration block an E-2 applicant from obtaining another visa from out of country (after the previous one expires, of course) on the basis of having broken contract?
Just checking. |
You are correct.
Immigration doesn't care and won't blacklist anyone for leaving a job.
Providing she has her status canceled (hands in her ARC as she departs the country) she can begin the visa process again for a new job the next day.
IF she does NOT cancel her status of sojourn she will have to wait until her ARC expires before she can try again.
IF she is at a public school and she pulls a runner she won't ever get hired at another one. She'll be doomed to working at hagwans. Give notice, get her deposits back and leave. It leaves the doors open.
If she is at a hagwan then whether or not to give notice will depend on how much she trusts the employer not to screw her by withholding her final month's pay (knowing that she will not likely be here to put up a labor board fight.
IF she suspects she will get fair treatment, give notice.
If she suspects she will get screwed, just leave at her convenience.
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cincynate
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| doomed to working at hagwans |
You mean she'll never be forced to sit in a freezing cold classroom for 8 hours during an entire winter with no students present. Some of us consider never having to work for a public school again a blessing. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| doomed to working at hagwans |
You mean she'll never be forced to sit in a freezing cold classroom for 8 hours during an entire winter with no students present. Some of us consider never having to work for a public school again a blessing. |
Depends on the public school and what you let them get away with.
All my P.S. classrooms have been toasty warm or comfortably cool depending on the season outside. I've encountered more uncomfortable classrooms in hakwons then in public schools. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Blacklist at immigration? |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
Providing she has her status canceled (hands in her ARC as she departs the country) she can begin the visa process again for a new job the next day.
IF she does NOT cancel her status of sojourn she will have to wait until her ARC expires before she can try again. |
Hey ttom,
I just pulled a midnight runner eight months into my contract with a hagwon. I turned in my ARC at the airport on the way out, but my work visa doesn't expire until September.
Am I understanding you correctly that I would be able to get a new work visa before the expiration date of the current work visa?
Thanks in advance. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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You understood correctly.
If you hand in your ARC to the immigration officer when you leave and tell him that you're finished, your visa will be cancelled. In fact, you probably don't need to actually say that you're finished. Handing in the ARC should be enough, but I always make sure to tell the immigration guy just to be sure.
If you have a new set of documents ready, you can apply for a new visa tomorrow (or as soon as you get a job offer that is).
For future reference, you can also cancel your visa while you're in Korea. Then they give you a couple weeks to leave the country. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Thanks, that's great! |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| cincynate wrote: |
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| doomed to working at hagwans |
You mean she'll never be forced to sit in a freezing cold classroom for 8 hours during an entire winter with no students present. Some of us consider never having to work for a public school again a blessing. |
The rooms don't get that freezing and you can just wear warm clothes. If you are sitting in a cold room doing whatever you want to do, it means nobody around giving you ridiculous commands and complaints, like at a Hogwan. I found it relaxing to just use the computer away from everybody. |
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eid
Joined: 03 Jul 2012
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| Troglodyte wrote: |
You understood correctly.
If you hand in your ARC to the immigration officer when you leave and tell him that you're finished, your visa will be cancelled. In fact, you probably don't need to actually say that you're finished. Handing in the ARC should be enough, but I always make sure to tell the immigration guy just to be sure.
If you have a new set of documents ready, you can apply for a new visa tomorrow (or as soon as you get a job offer that is).
For future reference, you can also cancel your visa while you're in Korea. Then they give you a couple weeks to leave the country. |
Hey Troglodyte, you seem to know what you're talking about with regards to this issue, so could I just ask you...when these people start looking for new jobs in Korea after pulling a runner, if they don't tell the new recruiters/schools about this previous visa/job in Korea, then what happens when they arrive at their new job and start doing things like the ARC card? Doesn't the school have access to the passport during this process and will therefore be able to see previous visa issuances from Korea?
I posted this thread recently...http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=221423...just so you know why I'm asking.
Appreciate any help,
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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