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Hugo85



Joined: 27 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonephant wrote:
Hugo85 wrote:
Jonephant wrote:
Hugo85 wrote:
This better not apply to Hongdae playground


I hope they strongly enforce at Hongdae playground. That place is a state every morning as i walk past it on my way to work. The "toocoolforschool" gang should be made to pick up their own bottles, cans and crap.


The "toooldtohavefun" crowd should just avoid the area entirely then. There's almost no public trashcans in Korea, everywhere there's people becomes a mess of litter.


Im partner in business 2 mins from the playground. if "toooldtohavefun" means not vomiting on businesses steps, spraying the walls, pissing in flowerpots and generally wrecking the place then maybe i am too old. Im 28.


Are all white people pedophile drug addicts? No. Not everyone who hangs out an hongdae park is out to ruin the city. There are constant live performances going on and it has a nice atmosphere without the overbearingly loud music from inside the numerous establishments.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorf wrote:
Even if they implement this, the drinking culture is too pervasive and the police are too impotent and cowardly to actually enforce or do anything about this law.


The only real punishment meted out in Korea is social disapproval.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Gorf wrote:
Even if they implement this, the drinking culture is too pervasive and the police are too impotent and cowardly to actually enforce or do anything about this law.


The only real punishment meted out in Korea is social disapproval.


Society now disapproves of public drunkeness? Shocked
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rainman3277



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hugo85 wrote:
Jonephant wrote:
Hugo85 wrote:
Jonephant wrote:
Hugo85 wrote:
This better not apply to Hongdae playground


I hope they strongly enforce at Hongdae playground. That place is a state every morning as i walk past it on my way to work. The "toocoolforschool" gang should be made to pick up their own bottles, cans and crap.


The "toooldtohavefun" crowd should just avoid the area entirely then. There's almost no public trashcans in Korea, everywhere there's people becomes a mess of litter.


Im partner in business 2 mins from the playground. if "toooldtohavefun" means not vomiting on businesses steps, spraying the walls, pissing in flowerpots and generally wrecking the place then maybe i am too old. Im 28.


Are all white people pedophile drug addicts? No. Not everyone who hangs out an hongdae park is out to ruin the city. There are constant live performances going on and it has a nice atmosphere without the overbearingly loud music from inside the numerous establishments.


Always count on a ridiculously unrelated analogy to hurt your credibility in a debate. That plus generalizing and then judging someone else for doing the same.
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Hugo85



Joined: 27 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rainman3277 wrote:

Always count on a ridiculously unrelated analogy to hurt your credibility in a debate. That plus generalizing and then judging someone else for doing the same.


This is Dave's, there's no debates.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea's no fun anymore.

Just recently, public school teachers can't smoke outside due to it being a negative light on the children.

And their also prohibiting smoking inside restaurants and going the California route starting in 2014.

With all of the CCTV's and the crackdown on personal freedoms, it's easy to say that S. Korea is becoming more Big Brother each and every day.

This coming from a non-smoker and non-drinker.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea's no fun anymore.

Just recently, public school teachers can't smoke outside due to it being a negative light on the children.

And their also prohibiting smoking inside restaurants and going the California route starting in 2014.

With all of the CCTV's and the crackdown on personal freedoms, it's easy to say that S. Korea is becoming more Big Brother each and every day.

This coming from a non-smoker and non-drinker.
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pegasus64128



Joined: 20 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear what people are saying about Korea becoming anal. It's been going that way for the last decade probably. It's sad that Koreans are becoming those really annoying Californians you sometimes meet with big sparkling teeth and overly formal, by the book mentality, superficial focus on looks and a superiority complex. That will be an increasingly bitter pill to swallow for actual Californians when Koreans visit there since California is becoming more like Mexico every day.

I don't drink or smoke in parks or around school so it doesn't effect me, but it does bother me that I can't! All the teachers at my public school are relentlessly brushing their teeth, and the prizes for the winning sports team members in a recent competition were tubes of toothpaste.

Korea's only really a good place for young single men and young couples anyway. When it ceases to be fun to go on the hunt for women without having to do the American/Californian thing - behaving like a politically and socially correct d-bag to get laid, that's when you know it's fully anal. It's certainly not at that point yet though.

The new requirement to have a 50cc hairdryer of a bike registered and insured is another sign of anality. There could be lawyers coming out of the ceiling if they keep going down that overly formal road as they are. Everyone will have etiquette stuffed up their ass so bad that even basic motor action won't be free.
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Emark



Joined: 10 May 2007
Location: duh, Korea?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I was wearing my tin-foil hat I had this short apparition.

There must be some sort of hidden agenda for a new tax or other revenue generating schemes like fines and inprisionment coming down the chute.

(with my hat off) What did I just say? Forget it.
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earthquakez



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
Korea's no fun anymore.

Just recently, public school teachers can't smoke outside due to it being a negative light on the children.

And their also prohibiting smoking inside restaurants and going the California route starting in 2014.

With all of the CCTV's and the crackdown on personal freedoms, it's easy to say that S. Korea is becoming more Big Brother each and every day.

This coming from a non-smoker and non-drinker.


Let's all overreact shall we? Since when has Korea not been Big Brother within the last 700 years and counting?

When you teach in a school and see the kids' names plastered on their uniforms, and then you see Korean workers having their photo ID plastered around their workplaces including restrooms for cleaners and buses for bus drivers, and Koreans have to be numbered and then use that number for just about everything, and you go to hospitals and staff are loudly discussing patients, and the staff are surprised you don't want the door to the corridoor where numberous Koreans are sitting in identical hospital garb waiting for various health checks open while you get undressed in the room where the door is, and it's expected that every transaction (even for a chocolate bar) will be paid for by some kind of card, not necessarily credit, and you have to sign your name every time you do the expected purchase no matter how small it is by card, etc, etc, then it's clear there's not much you can add in the way of Big Brotherish conditions.

Throw in the CTV cameras everywhere and the use of webcams everywhere plus the reality of a highly militarised society and an authoritarian, no privacy cultural tradition, and nobody should be surprised at any loss of privacy or perceived rights to get drunk in public places, annoy others, and piss everywhere.

I agree with the proposed law. There's nothing stopping us sitting outside Family Mart supping on beer, vodka, brandy, whisky or soju.
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tardisrider



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hugo85 wrote:


This is Dave's, there's no debates.


But an amazing number of experts.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who think Korea's becoming a nanny state are fogetting it's not been that long ago we had a military dictatorship. This sort of thing is nothing new. I question the point of this law because it doesn't seem to really do anything. Like with anything else in this country, I wonder if they'll even bother to enforce it.
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thunderbird



Joined: 18 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go outside, crack open a beer, see if any1 cares
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trish91198



Joined: 21 Dec 2008
Location: Jukjeon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that it will most likely not be enforced. Even if they try to enforce it, I feel that often, the Korean cops get tired of repeating themselves and just let stuff go.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is pretty funny.

Korea passes laws and rules to better regulate the activities of people (smoking and drinking restrictions, driving and parking restrictions) and people here complain Korea is no fun anymore. Yet, many of those same people will complain all day long how Korea is barbaric, lacks rules and is chaotic or how koreans have no manners and drink and smoke too much in public.

Hilarious.
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