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CoolBro
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 Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:42 pm Post subject: Positions for those not from English speaking countries. |
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I searched the whole forum and didnt find a thread about this, so i decided to make one. I apologize if i made a mistake.
So i am Greek and i read that in order to teach, you have to be from those 4-5 english speaking countries. I think i'm pretty good in English (degree of Proficiency from Cambridge), and with a couple of months of preparation i can have my english polished out in order to be at my best. So i dont think i would do such a bad job at teaching, if anything i might do an even better job because i had to learn it as a foreign language myself.
Is it possible for me to teach or is it out of the question simply because of my nationality? If that's out, are there any other jobs for foreigners like myself?
Thanks a lot. |
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northway
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| It's out of the question for you to teach English on an E-2 visa. If you have an advanced degree there might be some options for you, depending on what that degree is in. |
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luckylady
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Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Greek, huh? wow, that's hard, sorry for the situation your country is in right now.
if you can afford it, go for a Celta or Tesol; try and do it in a place that will hire you immediately afterwards. Thailand has programs like that, don't know if your country of origin matters, maybe someone else here can say.
might register over in the international forums and check out the different countries as well. you can't log on there with this logon, you'll have to set up a new registration.
good luck - |
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andrewchon
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Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| What is a degree of Proficiency? Is that at least a three year Bachelor course? |
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CoolBro
Joined: 05 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| It's out of the question for you to teach English on an E-2 visa. If you have an advanced degree there might be some options for you, depending on what that degree is in. |
I have a degree in medicine but here people have to wait 5-6 years to be able to start their residency. That's why i started looking abroad. I have some options for residency in Europe but it might take a while for the applications and stuff.
I love Korea and to work in medicine there i need to pass medical exams in Korean, which is impossible. So i was thinking of getting a teaching job or something, until i can get my residency somewhere in Europe.
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Greek, huh? wow, that's hard, sorry for the situation your country is in right now.
if you can afford it, go for a Celta or Tesol; try and do it in a place that will hire you immediately afterwards. Thailand has programs like that, don't know if your country of origin matters, maybe someone else here can say.
might register over in the international forums and check out the different countries as well. you can't log on there with this logon, you'll have to set up a new registration.
good luck - |
I can pass these English exams, the problem seems to be that Greece isnt among the countries that are accepted in teaching jobs in Korea or Japan no matter how well you speak English.
To be honest that's the two countries i'm most interested in, and i'm not sure if i'd go to Thailand. I've heard it's not that safe of a place anyway.
That's why i'm asking if there's a way to get accepted as a teacher, and if not that, maybe in some other job? Are foreigners only hired as teachers there? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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A a Greek national you cannot legally work as an English teacher in Korea (wrong passport).
Provided you have a bachelors degree from an accredited university AND can obtain a language proficiency score (TOEIC 600+ / IELTS 5.5+) You CAN legally work as an English teacher (with proper visas and permits) in China, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam.
You can also find work in Eastern Europe and western Asia.
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CoolBro
Joined: 05 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| What is a degree of Proficiency? Is that at least a three year Bachelor course? |
I should have explained.
It's a degree of proficiency in the English language, awarded by Cambridge after you pass an exam. It's basically the top degree for foreigners when it comes to skill in English, but i think it only lasts for a couple of years, just like most of these degrees (if i am not mistaken). It's very academic.
People prefer IELTS or however it's called because it's much easier and has the same uses. If only i knew beforehand. 
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northway
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| If you're afraid of Thailand not being safe, you might want to consider just staying home. On a less snarky note: if you're not willing to go to Southeast Asia because it's too dangerous, maybe look into China, as they'll hire anyone (though it might nt be perfectly legal). |
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CoolBro
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
A a Greek national you cannot legally work as an English teacher in Korea (wrong passport).
Provided you have a bachelors degree from an accredited university AND can obtain a language proficiency score (TOEIC 600+ / IELTS 5.5+) You CAN legally work as an English teacher (with proper visas and permits) in China, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam.
You can also find work in Eastern Europe and western Asia.
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Thanks a lot! I'll check those countries out.
Btw, how long does this process take for you to get the job and start there? I know that it varies from country to country, i'd just like to have a measure. A year? More, less? |
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CoolBro
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| If you're afraid of Thailand not being safe, you might want to consider just staying home. On a less snarky note: if you're not willing to go to Southeast Asia because it's too dangerous, maybe look into China, as they'll hire anyone (though it might nt be perfectly legal). |
It's just that i heard some nasty things about Thailand. After all, i am mostly interested in Korea, and there's a big difference between the two countries.
When you present me with a much less safe choice, i think it's natural that i'd have reservations. So i think your snark was uncalled for. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| CoolBro wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
A a Greek national you cannot legally work as an English teacher in Korea (wrong passport).
Provided you have a bachelors degree from an accredited university AND can obtain a language proficiency score (TOEIC 600+ / IELTS 5.5+) You CAN legally work as an English teacher (with proper visas and permits) in China, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam.
You can also find work in Eastern Europe and western Asia.
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Thanks a lot! I'll check those countries out.
Btw, how long does this process take for you to get the job and start there? I know that it varies from country to country, i'd just like to have a measure. A year? More, less? |
AFTER you find a job it usually is a matter of 2-4 weeks to process the paperwork.
In China, jobs are usually found while you are abroad by using a recruiter (like Korea). Google "SAFEA" for more information.
For the other countries, jobs are usually found while you are in the country as a tourist. Then after you find a job you can either go to immigration to change your status or do a quick run to the appropriate embassy/consulate in a neighboring country to obtain your visa.
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CoolBro
Joined: 05 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot for your all your imput.
So nothing for me in Korea then? |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| CoolBro wrote: |
Thanks a lot for your all your imput.
So nothing for me in Korea then? |
No chance of legal work as a teacher (wrong passport) or in medicine (wrong language skills).
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CoolBro
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks a lot man! |
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