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oppa637
Joined: 05 Dec 2011
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| eh, I'm from Houston. If you moved to Austin, you'd probably feel better. |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| oppa637 wrote: |
| eh, I'm from Houston. If you moved to Austin, you'd probably feel better. |
Shh. |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| jfromtheway wrote: |
| oppa637 wrote: |
| eh, I'm from Houston. If you moved to Austin, you'd probably feel better. |
Shh. |
austin hell she needs to get the hell outta texas period -
op head for the ne, at least as far as d.c., on up to nyc, boston, etc.
texas is a sh*thole for women, will definitely do a number on your self-esteem.
get yourself in a better frame of mind before making a move overseas, then when you come, you'll have a better time, appreciate it more and be happier.
I remember one friend who followed her bf over here, they broke up and she was a real mess - totally, absolutely - she was making some bank, too, but couldn't stop having these depression breakdowns. when she finally flew home, she wrote and told me she cried all the way on the plane - wow - she went on to grad school or something.
anyway, be assured, anywhere out of texas is gonna be like another country. really. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know what the "right" reasons to come are, but your reasons don't sound too different from mine. I had a career I was bored with (corporate paralegal) and was living in a city I hated (Seattle). I'd wanted to travel since finished undergrad 5 years earlier and I'd never managed to make it happen. A free plane ticket and a job doing something completely new on the other side of the world seemed like a lifeline. The chance to learn an Asian language seemed like an interesting challenge to boot.
An employment-challenged friend and I started looking for jobs together and we went for it. That was 10 years ago.
He left at the end of his first contract, I ended up making this a career. I'm still here with oodles of free time, challenging work on the side, a residency visa, chances to travel, and now a wonderful wife.
If I'd listened to the kind of advice you're getting on this thread I'd have never come. I had no idea what I was really getting into, but I have no regrets and wouldn't give up this life for anything. It worked for me, but it ain't for everyone. You'll never know if it's for you until you try. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Gotta ask if you're moving to something or away from something? Others are right when they say dissatisfaction is a mindset that will follow.
That being said the freedom to adopt new a lifestyle, free from friends and family who expect you to be a certain way, does allow for a reinvention; I started lots of great new habits after I came here. I hear of many who go the other way without people to hold them accountable too.
Maybe being a bit older, I'm around 30 too, will help with finding that direction. I say go for it do your best to check references and find a good school and then jump in. |
I agree with this.
Only risk I see is you say you have low self confidence, and honestly if you end up in a bad school they will pick up on that right away and make your life hell. Are you insecure about your looks? Some people here will comment on that, maybe everyday. Did you have something bad happen to you? Divorce? Fired? That will be taken into account. At a good school that won't happen though. If you do the research you should be ok.
Bad thing about the cultural experience?
People come here to understand korean culture and immediately take it at face value sometimes. They feel like they are in a land where everything is great and they are loved. The people that actually bother to look further into the culture usually get a swift kick to the stomach when they realize how much of it is just presentation, and how some people might actually feel about them is the opposite of what they first thought. A person that is ready for this will be ok, if someone isn't the reality check can be harsh. I personally love the culture, but I'm honest about it (and you asked about the bad so I'm telling you). The combination of a culture that is historically xenophobic and wary of any foreigner combined with the foreign apologists that allow themselves to get walked on can drive a man crazy.
To me, there is only one thing that really matters, are you financially secure enough to ditch the country if you need to? If so then come on over, and if things go sour hop a plane to SE Asia for a little bit then head back to the states. If you fail here, don't take it to heart. There are situations foreigners end up in that are beyond their control. Accept this when you come and be ready to get out if it happens.
No wonder so many people whine on this forum, can't even handle Dallas. |
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metalhead
Joined: 18 May 2010 Location: Toilet
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure why the OP thinks besides Japan and Korea, the rest of Asia is a dump. Who knows, perhaps the OP ends up in a wonderful area like Incheon or Pohang in Korea, or worse, a small blue-collar town. Maybe even the coast, where the fish markets are, with their huge piles of trash on the docks, rats running around everywhere, the smell of foul fish in the air, people setting up at 2:30am and shrieking at each other - I know I'd rather be in a dump like Cambo than there.
Texas has a lot of good metal shows, especially in San Antonio. That alone gets the place a thumbs up from me. |
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leilam12
Joined: 04 Jun 2012 Location: TX
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| metalhead wrote: |
Not sure why the OP thinks besides Japan and Korea, the rest of Asia is a dump. Who knows, perhaps the OP ends up in a wonderful area like Incheon or Pohang in Korea, or worse, a small blue-collar town. Maybe even the coast, where the fish markets are, with their huge piles of trash on the docks, rats running around everywhere, the smell of foul fish in the air, people setting up at 2:30am and shrieking at each other - I know I'd rather be in a dump like Cambo than there.
Texas has a lot of good metal shows, especially in San Antonio. That alone gets the place a thumbs up from me. |
Yeah...i dont wanna end up in a fishing town over there for sure. lol
About Texas- I like it here, i really do. I am considering moving to Austin, lovely lil city.
I dont care for East coast. not my scene. I am from toronto after all, i know what its like up there.
Im just lookin for adventure! Im young. wild(not really) and free so why not??
Will this Teaching Overseas opportunities ever end? Shouldnt most of Korea be fluent in English by now? lol |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| leilam12 wrote: |
| Shouldnt most of Korea be fluent in English by now? lol |
Not even close. |
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sojusucks

Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Bad reasons to go to South Korea:
1) Because soju is supposed to be cheaper than alcohol back home.
2) To enjoy the culture (who knew being a foreigner could be such a bad thing; and most museums don't portray us well with a couple of exceptions).
3) To save money (in the current economy with a very weak exchange rate).
4) Because you heard how good kimchi is.
5) Because you love eating rice.
6) Because someone on Dave's ESL Cafe said how great it is.
7) To experience and participate in the strong presence of prostitution -- many Koreans believe that STDs and AIDs/HIV are a foreigner-only thing and don't use condoms.
Because you want to become a serious English teacher -- only "edutainers" need apply. No prior experience ... no problem.
9) For the health care insurance. It doesn't really cover that much.
What else? |
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ktkates87
Joined: 13 Apr 2010 Location: Busan
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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My reasons the first and second time were money.
The worst reason to come here I've ever heard was a coworker saying he "wanted to sleep with a woman from every country in the world." I think he managed about 4 nationalities while he was here.  |
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eventually
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| psssh, i say do it. it's only a year. you only live once. |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Bad reasons:
-You like Korean culture
Good reasons
-You like having a job with a laughable amount of real-world application or useful experience
-You like saving money
-You enjoy being stared at and mocked by small children and old people
-You need a reminder of why having an office job that pays a livable wage is a better gig than wasting time at a dead-end job in a country of xenophobes
That said, I have a great job here (good money, 4 hours a day) but I still yearn for a REAL job with REAL challenges, incentives, and most of all, a country that doesn't demean me for being me. |
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oppa637
Joined: 05 Dec 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've lived in Houston, Austin, Dallas, and now Seoul.
Honestly, I hate Houston and Dallas to no ends. I think its great for a stable and safe lifestyle. If you have a family, its quite ideal. As I yet to have a family, I'd rather enjoy myself and travel. The only only place I would want to live in if I were to stay in Texas or anywhere in central US would be Austin.
Personally, I dream to live in Miami.
As for Seoul, I think its a great place, exciting, traveling and seeing new things has its perks. But if you're coming here to "run away", I'm not sure I'd advise it as it could hurt more.
I think a lot depends on your personality. |
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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I don't really like this country. It smells bad, its dirty, the food isn't very good, men especially older men spit everywhere while making some God awful noise, and I can't say I care for the culture or the education system. However with that said I am having a great time here and I might even stay awhile. It just depends on you. |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think this Leila girl already hurt her chances.
IF I remember correctly she confessed on her visa application form to having clinical depression in the past.
It is by no means certain that you'll get an E-2 now.
So maybe you will have to go somewhere more undesirable
I'm in China now and I can't say it is a dump at all. Here in Beijing, the streets are cleaner than Seoul.  |
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