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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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No, it really isn't.
Very few nurses make that much.
my wife is a nurse and frequently checks the nurse job board, average salary is 8-9k/hour. If you are a pretty young nurse with some talent working at a higher end plastic surgery clinic you might get 2.5/month |
your wife seems to be underpaid (or didn't get her 4yr college diploma). according to the korean medical journal the average annual salary of hospital workers (excluding doctors but including nurses) is 35.46 million won (in 2010), and nurses make about 30 million. i've checked multiple sites and results are very consistent.
http://www.dailymedi.com/news/view.html?section=1&category=4&no=715844 |
She has her 4 year degree, and those are the averages. You may want to check where those salaries actually come from. Those numbers come from the actual jobs out there on offer. You'll also find that a large university hospital has a higher salary for some jobs, but most nurses are not working in those places. You also have to consider what the OP asked. Not the average salary over all, but the starting salary. Nurses with 10 years experience who have worked the whole time at a big university hospital might be making around 30 million a year. A nurse fresh out of university isn't getting that.
Taking some cherry picked salary from a big university hospital isn't reflective of the starting wage of the average nurse in Korea.
the average 4 year nurse is making around 8-9k/hour starting and usually not much more than that unless they do get long term at a big university hospital and rise up or get on at a higher end plastic surgery clinic. |
30m/yr is for 간호사 초봉 평균 or "average starting salary". Your wife deserves a lot more. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| Moondoggy wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
| Moondoggy wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
No, it really isn't.
Very few nurses make that much.
my wife is a nurse and frequently checks the nurse job board, average salary is 8-9k/hour. If you are a pretty young nurse with some talent working at a higher end plastic surgery clinic you might get 2.5/month |
your wife seems to be underpaid (or didn't get her 4yr college diploma). according to the korean medical journal the average annual salary of hospital workers (excluding doctors but including nurses) is 35.46 million won (in 2010), and nurses make about 30 million. i've checked multiple sites and results are very consistent.
http://www.dailymedi.com/news/view.html?section=1&category=4&no=715844 |
She has her 4 year degree, and those are the averages. You may want to check where those salaries actually come from. Those numbers come from the actual jobs out there on offer. You'll also find that a large university hospital has a higher salary for some jobs, but most nurses are not working in those places. You also have to consider what the OP asked. Not the average salary over all, but the starting salary. Nurses with 10 years experience who have worked the whole time at a big university hospital might be making around 30 million a year. A nurse fresh out of university isn't getting that.
Taking some cherry picked salary from a big university hospital isn't reflective of the starting wage of the average nurse in Korea.
the average 4 year nurse is making around 8-9k/hour starting and usually not much more than that unless they do get long term at a big university hospital and rise up or get on at a higher end plastic surgery clinic. |
30m/yr is for 간호사 초봉 평균 or "average starting salary". Your wife deserves a lot more. |
You are citing all kinds of sources for your stats, general hospital pay, university hospitals, etc.
As iambabo just pointed out his wife confirmed new RNs, getting 23-24. A little higher, than what has come up on nurscape, but much lower than 30 million |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess you also want copious amounts of poop, pee, and vomit. Oh and blood. |
Eh, you get those things with having kids, too, though not on such a grand scale. |
And again, if you're bright and motivated there are a lot of things you can do with a nursing degree that pay well and won't have you anywhere near any of the nasty bits. NYC Gal, look into pharma research, particularly if you want to live in the city, as a lot of companies have headquarters right across the river in Jersey. |
My goal as of yet is to work at a Sloan Kettering. The nurses there made my mom's experience with radiation much easier than it could have been at any other center. I have friends who do research there, so I know that it's a place where I would want to work. Also, the pay is pretty high, compared to most other places, as it's the best cancer center in NYC.
I'd like to start in an ER, though, as I may find that I'm good at certain aspects, and better be able to choose where I work later on. Also, triage and ER care would be a great skills set to have, considering the fact that I want a kid or two.
Thanks for the heads up with Pharma. I'll look into it. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
| Moondoggy wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
| Moondoggy wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
No, it really isn't.
Very few nurses make that much.
my wife is a nurse and frequently checks the nurse job board, average salary is 8-9k/hour. If you are a pretty young nurse with some talent working at a higher end plastic surgery clinic you might get 2.5/month |
your wife seems to be underpaid (or didn't get her 4yr college diploma). according to the korean medical journal the average annual salary of hospital workers (excluding doctors but including nurses) is 35.46 million won (in 2010), and nurses make about 30 million. i've checked multiple sites and results are very consistent.
http://www.dailymedi.com/news/view.html?section=1&category=4&no=715844 |
She has her 4 year degree, and those are the averages. You may want to check where those salaries actually come from. Those numbers come from the actual jobs out there on offer. You'll also find that a large university hospital has a higher salary for some jobs, but most nurses are not working in those places. You also have to consider what the OP asked. Not the average salary over all, but the starting salary. Nurses with 10 years experience who have worked the whole time at a big university hospital might be making around 30 million a year. A nurse fresh out of university isn't getting that.
Taking some cherry picked salary from a big university hospital isn't reflective of the starting wage of the average nurse in Korea.
the average 4 year nurse is making around 8-9k/hour starting and usually not much more than that unless they do get long term at a big university hospital and rise up or get on at a higher end plastic surgery clinic. |
30m/yr is for 간호사 초봉 평균 or "average starting salary". Your wife deserves a lot more. |
You are citing all kinds of sources for your stats, general hospital pay, university hospitals, etc.
As iambabo just pointed out his wife confirmed new RNs, getting 23-24. A little higher, than what has come up on nurscape, but much lower than 30 million |
hmmm so what's your point? are you trying to tell the world that teaching esl makes more money than nursing? unfortunately that's not true according to many reliable sources. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:12 am Post subject: |
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hmmm so what's your point? are you trying to tell the world that teaching esl makes more money than nursing? unfortunately that's not true according to many reliable sources. |
The point would be if you actually read the original question. The question was about starting salaries. You aren't quoting starting salaries, if you are, you aren't quoting reliable sources as both his wife, my wife and the job postings at nurscape tell a very different story about nurse salaries than what you're claiming. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds like the OP's 'friend' isn't a full fledged nurse. Maybe an medical assistant/technician... |
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Enigma
Joined: 20 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds like the OP's 'friend' isn't a full fledged nurse. Maybe an medical assistant/technician... |
What exactly are you trying to insinuate with the quotes around friend? I never said she was a 'friend'. If you read my OP again, I stated very clearly that she was my student and another male student told us that the starting salary for nurses was around 600,000 won a month (I believe he knew because his sister had been thinking about being a nurse, but decided against it because she was underwhelmed by the salary.) There's no mention of a friend at all in there. |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't be surprised, the salary for a government job starts at around 1 mil. The bonus with having a public job is the pension and the option to work past 55. most people who want to work as a nurse have a long term perspective. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't be surprised, the salary for a government job starts at around 1 mil. The bonus with having a public job is the pension and the option to work past 55. most people who want to work as a nurse have a long term perspective. |
Not really.. how many old nurses have you seen in Korea? It's mostly a young girls game. Older nurses can have a tough time finding a job unless they stay at the same place all the way through. |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:49 am Post subject: |
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I got this information from the HR manager of a private company who said "government workers like office workers, teacher, police and nurses etc want to have a government job because they have a big pension and they can work for a long time" and then explained he has trouble getting young female workers because even if the pay is higher he can't compete with the job security of public employment.
He's got no reason to lie to me so I'll go with what he said.
| alongway wrote: |
| Malislamusrex wrote: |
| I wouldn't be surprised, the salary for a government job starts at around 1 mil. The bonus with having a public job is the pension and the option to work past 55. most people who want to work as a nurse have a long term perspective. |
Not really.. how many old nurses have you seen in Korea? It's mostly a young girls game. Older nurses can have a tough time finding a job unless they stay at the same place all the way through. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Malislamusrex wrote: |
I got this information from the HR manager of a private company who said "government workers like office workers, teacher, police and nurses etc want to have a government job because they have a big pension and they can work for a long time" and then explained he has trouble getting young female workers because even if the pay is higher he can't compete with the job security of public employment.
He's got no reason to lie to me so I'll go with what he said.
| alongway wrote: |
| Malislamusrex wrote: |
| I wouldn't be surprised, the salary for a government job starts at around 1 mil. The bonus with having a public job is the pension and the option to work past 55. most people who want to work as a nurse have a long term perspective. |
Not really.. how many old nurses have you seen in Korea? It's mostly a young girls game. Older nurses can have a tough time finding a job unless they stay at the same place all the way through. |
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Yep!
I noticed government employees think they're god. My friend has a boss at an embassy who regularly thinks he's god's gift to mankind and speaks in third person.
I heard police officers are not valued as much. Pay is alright and they complain about the hours like US cops. Job is more chill than US cops.....nothing like...the tv show "Southland" |
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