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northway
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| luckylady wrote: |
| some K teachers make really long commutes. foreign teachers are spoiled when it comes to commuting/living close to work |
Yep, but when the standard is to spoil they're burning you by not doing so. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd say that if the school places you in housing that is more than 1 hour away from your school, that it is perfectly reasonable to request compensation for the extra travel expenses. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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It's not a matter of spoiling when it comes to placing NETS near the school...it's a matter of making it easy for the boss to check up on them if they call in sick or something.
Pretty sure that the latter reason is prevalent in more hakwon bosses' minds then the former. |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
It's not a matter of spoiling when it comes to placing NETS near the school...it's a matter of making it easy for the boss to check up on them if they call in sick or something.
Pretty sure that the latter reason is prevalent in more hakwon bosses' minds then the former. |
no doubt you're absolutely correct but in the long run it usually does work out better for the teacher to be close |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
It's not a matter of spoiling when it comes to placing NETS near the school...it's a matter of making it easy for the boss to check up on them if they call in sick or something.
Pretty sure that the latter reason is prevalent in more hakwon bosses' minds then the former. |
Probably. The crappy third option being when you live half an hour away and they still insist on you coming to work in order for them to take you to the doctor. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Funny thing about this post is it's not South Florida OR London, so... totally irrelevant.
You're definitely not biking to work. No sidewalks and lots of highway.
I'd be concerned with location. Are you right next to the station? Banghwa is the end of the line, out by the airport. Also, how far from Balsan station is your job? If you've got a 10-15 minute walk each way, plus another 10 on the subway, you're looking at upwards of an hour if you have to wait for the train (end of line 5, you will definitely be waiting at certain times.) If that's the case, you could be looking at another 10 hours a week of simply commuting. Yeah, looking at the map it's really close, and if you have a motorcycle or find a good bus, it could be a quick 10 minutes (and if you live and work right outside the subway station and catch the trains, it could be an easy ten minutes), but the odds are that it'll take a bit of time.
I'd find out the TIME required to get to work, then ask based on that. I had a job once that took me about an hour by bus even though it was only 2 miles. Walking, waiting, transferring, waiting, and walking some more adds up. When I was there, they gave me a stipend, but I didn't ask for one.
Good luck. |
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HapKi

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Let me get this straight. School's providing your housing,
and you want to ask them for commute money?
My vote is you're being petty. |
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wes1989
Joined: 07 Jun 2012
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| You are working at Avalon, I am totally calling it. |
No the place is called Lingua. I am thinking about just dumping it for a number of reasons.
While I want to be in Seoul this is on the very last station of line 5. Outskirts
There are quite of a few things missing from the contract (like mention of sick days, dress code, etc) along with incorrect tax (3.3%) and wrong calculations of their examples which just gives me an uneasy feeling. Like come on how long have you been witting contracts?
Also my recruiter gave me a blog with pictures of the accommodation but if you look at the comments (Click on 덧글 15 at the bottom to open up 15 comments) they are all dated on the same date with only a couple minutes apart and saying basically the same thing "thanks for the information/post" There are also no comments since that date and 10 minute time slot which makes me believe the blog is fake. http://blog.naver.com/dukwon0604/20156244770 |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| wes1989 wrote: |
| Porksta wrote: |
| You are working at Avalon, I am totally calling it. |
No the place is called Lingua. I am thinking about just dumping it for a number of reasons.
While I want to be in Seoul this is on the very last station of line 5. Outskirts
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If being in Seoul is important to you, I'd keep looking for another job. The area you're living in may as well be considered a satellite city. It's further away from notable places than some of the satellites (i.e. Bundang). |
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wes1989
Joined: 07 Jun 2012
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| wes1989 wrote: |
| Porksta wrote: |
| You are working at Avalon, I am totally calling it. |
No the place is called Lingua. I am thinking about just dumping it for a number of reasons.
While I want to be in Seoul this is on the very last station of line 5. Outskirts
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If being in Seoul is important to you, I'd keep looking for another job. The area you're living in may as well be considered a satellite city. It's further away from notable places than some of the satellites (i.e. Bundang). |
Thanks I have been thinking maybe to apply to EPIK for March now that I have all the documents and recommendation letters gathered and not so strapped for time. Maybe I can make a killer video to go with it and display some of my Korean skills too.... |
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Porksta
Joined: 05 May 2011
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| wes1989 wrote: |
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| You are working at Avalon, I am totally calling it. |
No the place is called Lingua. I am thinking about just dumping it for a number of reasons.
While I want to be in Seoul this is on the very last station of line 5. Outskirts
There are quite of a few things missing from the contract (like mention of sick days, dress code, etc) along with incorrect tax (3.3%) and wrong calculations of their examples which just gives me an uneasy feeling. Like come on how long have you been witting contracts?
Also my recruiter gave me a blog with pictures of the accommodation but if you look at the comments (Click on 덧글 15 at the bottom to open up 15 comments) they are all dated on the same date with only a couple minutes apart and saying basically the same thing "thanks for the information/post" There are also no comments since that date and 10 minute time slot which makes me believe the blog is fake. http://blog.naver.com/dukwon0604/20156244770 |
Ah, I lived in Bangwha and worked in Balsan, so I thought maybe... My rule of thumb is that if they put in the contract (or in some cases the listing) that they are over taxing, it isn't worth it. If they are treating you illegally before you even work for them, then what is going to happen when you get over there? |
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Emark

Joined: 10 May 2007 Location: duh, Korea?
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Haha. That is tightwad behaviour. Are you one of those skinflints that takes water home from the school water fountains? |
skinflint = thrifty.
What's wrong with that?
Hauling 7 to 10kg of water home might be good strength training exercise. |
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missty

Joined: 19 Feb 2008
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| wes1989 wrote: |
| Porksta wrote: |
| You are working at Avalon, I am totally calling it. |
No the place is called Lingua. I am thinking about just dumping it for a number of reasons.
While I want to be in Seoul this is on the very last station of line 5. Outskirts
There are quite of a few things missing from the contract (like mention of sick days, dress code, etc) along with incorrect tax (3.3%) and wrong calculations of their examples which just gives me an uneasy feeling. Like come on how long have you been witting contracts?
Also my recruiter gave me a blog with pictures of the accommodation but if you look at the comments (Click on 덧글 15 at the bottom to open up 15 comments) they are all dated on the same date with only a couple minutes apart and saying basically the same thing "thanks for the information/post" There are also no comments since that date and 10 minute time slot which makes me believe the blog is fake. http://blog.naver.com/dukwon0604/20156244770 |
I'm currently living in Banghwa, and whilst yes, it is the outskirts, its actually not bad. Line 5 isn't too slow, and you can get to Hongdae via the airport express in about 20-25ish minutes. Plus, Balsan isn't far at all. I'm working on line 9, and with changing the subway line its probably a lot further than where you'd be working. I don't think you should ask for compensation at all.
I can't say much about the photos in the link, but there are lots of foreign teachers placed in this area and the apartments are small but clean and safe. I've lived in worse for sure. I very much doubt the photos are fake, as the area shown is definitely Banghwa and the apartment looks pretty standard for the area. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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some K teachers make really long commutes. foreign teachers are spoiled when it comes to commuting/living close to work[/quote]
FT's compared to KT's. Well it's really apples and oranges.
KT's don't have to move half way round the world to take the job,
don't have to leave family, friends and support networks behind them,
don't have all the hassles with visas, immigration, learning to live in a
new and different (sometimes hostile) culture,
don't have to worry about all the risks and unknowns that FT's have.
They can teach privates legally.
They can quit anytime and find another job without all the visa issues.
There are a lot more things than just 'teaching' that should be considered
when talking about the benefits FT's get in Korea. |
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amoonbot
Joined: 29 Jul 2009
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| "They can teach privates legally." - This isn't true of Korean teachers. For those under a public school contract, Korean or not, you're not allowed to do extra work on the side unless it is approved by the school. And some hagwons also apply this rule to their employees regardless of visa or citizenship class. |
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