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tim5p
Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Location: Altoona, Pennsylvania
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 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: Apostille process, explained like i'm a 3 year old. |
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I have no idea how this works. I have my CBC, notarized by an official. I have my diploma. I live in Pennsylvania.
What, in the simplest of terms and preferably in chronological order, do I need to do now?
Everything I've read is different, and I've spoken to machines all day to no avail.
Thanks so much for your time!
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foullows
Joined: 08 Jun 2012
Location: Salt Lake City
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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I think it differs slightly depending on whether you're applying for a public school or private school. My recruiter told me to get:
1. A Notarized photocopy of your degree (with apostille)
2. A sealed copy of your official university transcripts
(should be stamped across the back flap of the envelope)
3. A copy of your resume
4. A copy of your passport picture page (copy only, not your passport)
5. Signed contract
6. 6 passport-sized photos
7. Criminal record check (federal level with apostille)
8. Pre-employment medical check-up
It's all pretty easy to get if you live nearby the university you graduated from. From what I understand the most difficult and time consuming item is the CBC which can take several months to get done. |
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tim5p
Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Location: Altoona, Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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two questions:
Can I get my degree notarized anywhere, or does it have to be by the university I graduated from?
Do I send my notarized diploma to my state's State Department, and my CBC to the federal State department? Or can I send both notarized documents to the same place to be "apostillized"?
and thanks foullows!
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Porksta
Joined: 05 May 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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You have to get your stuff notarized from a notary public. A bank usually has one, your school might. Some might charge a fee.
After getting your notary you send in all your documents to (usually) your state capital. They will come back in a week or so fully apostilled and you are good to go. |
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tim5p
Joined: 02 Jul 2012
Location: Altoona, Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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great, thank you Porksta
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RLib
Joined: 17 Apr 2012
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| tim5p wrote: |
two questions:
Can I get my degree notarized anywhere, or does it have to be by the university I graduated from?
Do I send my notarized diploma to my state's State Department, and my CBC to the federal State department? Or can I send both notarized documents to the same place to be "apostillized"?
and thanks foullows!
tim |
You can get the copy of the degree notarized in any state, but the apostille has to be from the same state as the notary. So if it's notarized in PA, you get the apostille from the PA State Department. Think of it this way- the notary is to prove that your document (or copy of) is authentic, the apostille is to prove that the notary is authentic, and since notaries are certified by each individual state, only the state that the notary is from can say the notary stamp is authentic. It's a pain and kind of stupid, but whatever.
This site is helpful for step-by-step process for the apostille for the copy of the diploma: http://marshalljonesjr.com/how-to-get-an-apostille-for-your-degree/
Some people say you can get the CBC apostille from your State Department, but from what I've read, not all states do it and the safer bet is getting the apostille from the Federal State Dept in DC. If you're in PA and have some time, take a train or bus to DC and just do it in person- they have daily walk in hours and it's completed the same day.
Again, this site is helpful for the step-by-step process for the CBC + apostille: http://marshalljonesjr.com/apostilled-fbi-background-check-for-teaching-esl-in-korea/
And here you can find info from the U.S. Department of State about the authentications/apostille process: http://www.state.gov/m/a/auth/index.htm |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:46 am Post subject: Re: Apostille process, explained like i'm a 3 year old. |
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| tim5p wrote: |
I have no idea how this works. I have my CBC, notarized by an official. I have my diploma. I live in Pennsylvania.
What, in the simplest of terms and preferably in chronological order, do I need to do now?
Everything I've read is different, and I've spoken to machines all day to no avail.
Thanks so much for your time!
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You don't get the CBC notarized. As RLib said, the CBC gets apostilled at the Department of State (DOS) in DC. And yeah, best to walk it in if you can. There's a thread somewhere on this forum how to do that.
The diploma you can get apostilled at your bank or some other notary public. Actually, UPS is a notary public, so you can take it there, but you'd have to pay. Try your bank first because they should do it for free. My bank wouldn't do it. (By way, you get a photocopy of your diploma notarized, not the original, but bring the original with you to show them. The stamp they give has to say "true copy".)
After you get the notarized copy you send it to Pennsylvania's Secretary of State (SOS) to get it apostilled. Personally, I would call the SOS before you get the diploma copy notarized as some SOSs have particular requirements as to how they want the notarization done.
Hope that helps.
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isitts
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theloniouspunk7
Joined: 05 Jul 2012
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| For the diploma, you might want to call your state Secretary of State's office to confirm the process. In Maryland, at least, there was a middle step between the notary and the Apostille that I wasn't aware of -- I had to go to the Circuit Court of the county where I got the notary to get "county confirmation." So it was a 3-step process: notary, county confirmation, Apostille. |
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crimsonnight
Joined: 18 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Call or check the government website. In NY I had to take my diploma, bring it to the school, have the school notary notarize it, send it to the county clerk to verify the notary at the school, then send it to the state. The state notary is all you need. I don't think the government notarizes state docs anyway.
The CBC gets apostilled by the gov't, then you're all set. |
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