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has the music scene dried up?
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Gorf



Joined: 25 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically everything done by the Ed Banger Records crew right now is excellent and a future classic. Currently I'm addicted to Breakbot's "1 out of 2" and its remix by Oliver.
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fosterman



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NilesQ wrote:
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When technology changes, the skill set required changes as well. You had to practically be a chemist to be a photographer at one time. Photographers today are still producing quality images, just using a different set of tools. The transition period is always tough. The melding of the artistry of the old guard with the tech savy of the new generation can produce some cool new stuff in any field.


I agree, but technological things anyone can learn and be good at it, doesn't take much creativity to turn knobs and press buttons, just need to learn the controls, but writing music, writing lyrics, and creating the melody, now that's an art. that takes creativity.
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah digital stuff is just a different breed than actually learning to play an instrument.

The act of directly handling an instrument instantly makes it organic, i.e. a living organism putting his/her soul into a guitar or piano (ok yeah, some people weren't meant to be musicians and don't have much 'soul', but those who do are vastly different from machine-based stuff).

Not that there isn't interesting machine-based music, i.e., Kraftwerk (who, ahem, started out in the beginning of their career playing instruments), just that on the whole it's easier and a bit of a 'flatter' (and less multi-dimensional) experience...mmm...suppose people familiar with organic substances will understand what I'm getting at...
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fosterman



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like it's not only a few of us who think the music scene is dead

it's hitting the news now..

http://news.yahoo.com/pop-music-sounds-same-nowadays-171714762.html
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SpiralStaircase



Joined: 14 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fosterman wrote:
looks like it's not only a few of us who think the music scene is dead

it's hitting the news now..

http://news.yahoo.com/pop-music-sounds-same-nowadays-171714762.html


Hey fosterman:
The music scene ain't dead-- you are.
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Keeper



Joined: 11 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fosterman wrote:
looks like it's not only a few of us who think the music scene is dead

it's hitting the news now..

http://news.yahoo.com/pop-music-sounds-same-nowadays-171714762.html


What's funny is this is what they said when rock and roll came out in the 50's. It's true that a number of labels have improperly remastered their CDs. These are well known on forums such as Hydrogen Audio which is for audiophiles.

As for the music scene dying off. I said the same thing in 2005 and then started to listen to newer music which isn't mainstream. I now enjoy new music more today than ever before. I could throw up a bunch of names but you will have to do your own searching for music that appeals to your own tastes.

What I don't like is the fracturing of the EDM scene. There is just too many different genres out there. While that scene is coming of age there is too much commercialization of it. That's nothing new though and has always been a part of music.
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re:cursive



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fosterman wrote:
I agree, but technological things anyone can learn and be good at it, doesn't take much creativity to turn knobs and press buttons, just need to learn the controls, but writing music, writing lyrics, and creating the melody, now that's an art. that takes creativity.

I disagree completely. It's pretty hard to just "turn knobs and press buttons" and have any kind of output that is truly great. Those that are able to produce captivating music with machines have devoted years and even decades to practicing and refining the craft and I think they deserve a bit more respect than to have people dismissing them as mere button pushers.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

re:cursive wrote:
fosterman wrote:
I agree, but technological things anyone can learn and be good at it, doesn't take much creativity to turn knobs and press buttons, just need to learn the controls, but writing music, writing lyrics, and creating the melody, now that's an art. that takes creativity.

I disagree completely. It's pretty hard to just "turn knobs and press buttons" and have any kind of output that is truly great. Those that are able to produce captivating music with machines have devoted years and even decades to practicing and refining the craft and I think they deserve a bit more respect than to have people dismissing them as mere button pushers.


I would agree with your disagreeing. Turning knobs and pressing buttons mechanically or doing it with musicality? Why do some mixing engineers get paid $10K USD to mix a song? It's just turning knobs and pressing buttons right? Anyone could do it?
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