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South Korea Confront Rapes After Girl�s Death
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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:38 am    Post subject: South Korea Confront Rapes After Girl�s Death Reply with quote

South Korea Confront Rapes After Girl�s Death

A few years ago, a girlfriend of mine reported to the police after being raped by her date. I accompanied her to the police station and was shocked that they literally laughed at her for coming in.

The officers just could not understand the concept of rape. Since it was her date and she only had few bruises on her wrists, they described it as �wild sex� and recommended that she go home and rest.

Women�s rights groups in South Korea often complain about how police consider domestic violence as a domestic matter. Horrible stories of women and children being beaten up by the husband or f ather while police sit back are often told in Korean media.

This week the country is once again grieving over a death, a 9-year-old girl allegedly murdered by her neighbor Jeom-Deok Kim.

Kim, 45, is accused of raping the girl in his car and at his home where he lives with a Vietnamese wife and a 3- year-old daughter in Tongyeong, South Gyeongsang province. He then strangled her and buried the body in the mountains, according to police reports.

The girl�s death has prompted Korean media to call for harsher punishment for such crimes. For example, a repeat sex offender in Korea would get four to nine years in jail. A repeat sex offender in the U.S. could expect to get between 10 and 45 years, according to Chosun Ilbo.

The most shocking part of the accusations against Kim revealed by the media so far is that he has given his victim and other neighborhood children rides to schools in the past. But no one knew that he was a repeat sex offender with 12 prior convictions. Kim was not registered on the child sex offenders list that the government had begun to publicly post in January 2010.

Kim�s last conviction was in 2005 when he tried to rape a 62-year-old woman after beating her up with a rock. Such crimes normally get seven years to life sentence in jail, but Kim served only four years given consideration that he was under the influence of alcohol at the time.

This case is raising alarms, perhaps a good sign, that the visitors to public website www.sexoffender.go.kr is surging. Before news of the murder, the site generated only an average of 10,000 daily visitors. Since then, millions have been clicking everyday.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/07/south-korea-confront-rapes-after-girls-death/
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While this is a horrific crime, what is it you want us to respond to?

A current event is something that the poster reports an event and then states a point of view and invites agreement or disagreement.

This post, as posted, is just sensationalism.
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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
While this is a horrific crime, what is it you want us to respond to?

A current event is something that the poster reports an event and then states a point of view and invites agreement or disagreement.

This post, as posted, is just sensationalism.


This post does not require a response.

My POV is implied.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I assume that you expect some posters to...what? Support the rapist? Do you really expect anyone to come out in favor of raping and killing little girls?

We can all read the original post in the newspaper. This is a DISCUSSION board. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of the meaning of discussion, but just in case, a divergence of view.

Example:
I'm all in favor of chubby, cuddly puppies and daffodils on warm spring days in the park. Chocolate ice cream is pretty nifty, too. Please discuss.

Had I said, 'Chubby, cuddly kittens and pansies are superior to chubby, cuddly puppies and daffodils on warm spring days in the park', then we would have something to discuss. Nothing of substance, but at least a point of view, stupid as it is.

My point of view is that posters who just post reports of horrific crimes with no point of view to discuss are just trying to make Korea look bad, or are implying that none of the rest of us can read a newspaper. Insulting. I've been literate for quite a while now.
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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Can I assume that you expect some posters to...what? Support the rapist? Do you really expect anyone to come out in favor of raping and killing little girls?


No, you may not.

Quote:
We can all read the original post in the newspaper. This is a DISCUSSION board. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of the meaning of discussion, but just in case, a divergence of view.

Example:
I'm all in favor of chubby, cuddly puppies and daffodils on warm spring days in the park. Chocolate ice cream is pretty nifty, too. Please discuss.

Had I said, 'Chubby, cuddly kittens and pansies are superior to chubby, cuddly puppies and daffodils on warm spring days in the park', then we would have something to discuss. Nothing of substance, but at least a point of view, stupid as it is.

My point of view is that posters who just post reports of horrific crimes with no point of view to discuss are just trying to make Korea look bad, or are implying that none of the rest of us can read a newspaper. Insulting. I've been literate for quite a while now.


You have yet to demonstrate that. You should be insulted.

Anyway, if you don't like the post, then don't respond.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
You have yet to demonstrate that. You should be insulted.

Anyway, if you don't like the post, then don't respond.


Ummm, I think I have demonstrated that I can read. That is not the issue at hand.

You are becoming defensive...and perhaps you should. Beyond re-posting something already published in the newspaper and something we could all read if we were interested, what is it we are supposed to discuss?

Since it is safe to say that we all have computers and can read newspaper articles pretty much everywhere, what is so special about this particular horrific crime (sympathy to the victim's family) that we should be aware of?

Unfortunately, this kind of crime occurs pretty much everywhere all around the world. What is special about this crime that our attention needs to be drawn to it?

If you cannot answer that question, then you are just grovelling in sensationalism...or anti-Korean propaganda.
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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Quote:
You have yet to demonstrate that. You should be insulted.

Anyway, if you don't like the post, then don't respond.


Ummm, I think I have demonstrated that I can read. That is not the issue at hand.

You are becoming defensive...and perhaps you should. Beyond re-posting something already published in the newspaper and something we could all read if we were interested, what is it we are supposed to discuss?

Since it is safe to say that we all have computers and can read newspaper articles pretty much everywhere, what is so special about this particular horrific crime (sympathy to the victim's family) that we should be aware of?

Unfortunately, this kind of crime occurs pretty much everywhere all around the world. What is special about this crime that our attention needs to be drawn to it?

If you cannot answer that question, then you are just grovelling in sensationalism...or anti-Korean propaganda.


Go back to the post, read the bolded parts, and think.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm..... I've read the bolded parts. This is very bad.
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Yata boy. Why do you just start new threads with news articles and offer no thoughts or insight of your own at all? Isn't this borderline trolling? Everybody can go online and read news articles for themselves. If the mods are ok with it and this is how you pass the time, good for you, but I think it's just weird start a new thread everytime you find an article interesting.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one's forcing anyone to read the article.

On the other hand some people come off as trying to enforce a certain style of posting.

The more new topics to sift through, the better, and just discard whatever don't do it for you, no need to get bent outta shape over it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some posters don't even care what's going on in Korea, much less, turn on or read the Korean news during their times here. The OP is providing a service to some.

The whole crime is quite gruesome and shocking. This offender will definitely get his just desserts and hopefully Korean police will learn to enforce the laws more strongly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
I'm with Yata boy. Why do you just start new threads with news articles and offer no thoughts or insight of your own at all? Isn't this borderline trolling? Everybody can go online and read news articles for themselves. If the mods are ok with it and this is how you pass the time, good for you, but I think it's just weird start a new thread everytime you find an article interesting.


It's called sharing. Think of it as a fruit basket.

fermentation wrote:
I'm with Yata boy. Why do you just start new threads with news articles and offer no thoughts or insight of your own at all? Isn't this borderline trolling? Everybody can go online and read news articles for themselves. If the mods are ok with it and this is how you pass the time, good for you, but I think it's just weird start a new thread everytime you find an article interesting.


A troll is someone that leaves irrelevant comments or asks questions to elicit a response when one is not necessary.
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least add a comment or something. Anybody can post links of articles.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
Some posters don't even care what's going on in Korea, much less, turn on or read the Korean news during their times here. The OP is providing a service to some.

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If those posters don't care...I fail to see the service. People who care can find and read the articles for themselves. People who don't won't.

And yeah it's expected (internet etiquette ) to add a comment or two.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave Chance wrote:
No one's forcing anyone to read the article. On the other hand some people come off as trying to enforce a certain style of posting. The more new topics to sift through, the better, and just discard whatever don't do it for you, no need to get bent outta shape over it.


Sorry, but that is not true.

I have to spend my time reading the posting to find out what it is I'm expected to agree/disagree with. Dave's is about conversation. When there is NOTHING, then I have wasted my time.

Over the years, we have had many posters who just link to anti-Korea articles. It seems to be their passive-aggressive method of slamming Korea. I object to people holding Korea up for undue criticism. If I'm not mistaken, Dave's frowns on this kind of behavior, too.
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