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Kuros
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 Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:17 pm Post subject: The Will to Power |
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All presidents bar one are directly descended from a medieval English king
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| 12-year-old BridgeAnne d�Avignon, of Salinas, California, created a ground-breaking family tree that connected 42 of 43 U.S. presidents to one common, . . . ancestor: King John of England. Prior to d�Avignon�s discovery, genealogists were only able to link 22 families of presidents, likely because they only focused on male bloodlines. |
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young_clinton
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Yeah but King John's power hungry genes are a bit watered down by now.
Also why stop at King John? They would also have to be related to power hungry Henry II and William the Conquerer if they are related to King John. |
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sml7285
Joined: 26 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah but King John's power hungry genes are a bit watered down by now.
Also why stop at King John? They would also have to be related to power hungry Henry II and William the Conquerer if they are related to King John. |
What about Adam? Of Adam and Eve. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| David Icke and those Holy Blood Holy Grail guys are gonna be all over this. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Also why stop at King John? |
Maybe they're trying to frame this as some sort of Robin Hood thing. |
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On the other hand
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Man, did I call this, or did I CALL this?
David Icke |
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tfunk
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Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Man, did I call this, or did I CALL this?
David Icke |
Icke has been on about this for years. Check the date on that post you linked to. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| tfunk wrote: |
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Man, did I call this, or did I CALL this?
David Icke |
Icke has been on about this for years. Check the date on that post you linked to. |
Yeah, I know, he's always been on about all the global elites being related to lizards or something. But I think the King John thing was new(at least in 2010). |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Have you ever noticed that all these geneological studies trace ancestry back to some Brit duke or earl or king. Why don't they ever conclude with the village idiot, a chimney sweep, a horse thief...an intelligent peasant farmer?
On the other hand, if Cro-Magnon records were available, we'd all be related more or less to the same hunter of mammoths and his wife the berry picker.
But the underlying idea is interesting. Are some people the inheritors of genes that make them more capable of rising to the top? In the short term, I'd say no. King John started on third base. He only had to out-live three brothers and imprison (and probably off) a couple of nephews to clear his way to the throne. What about all the other descendants of King John who haven't ended up governing a country?
Since we don't, as far as anyone knows, choose our parents, our 'fate' is largely dependent on luck. I can't prove it, but I'm convinced the world's greatest scientist, way beyond Newton, Darwin, Einstein, etc. was some illiterate peasant in China in the last century; the greatest potential mathematician in history was some Brazilian Indian unlucky enough to be born in a tribe whose math system consisted of 'one', 'two', and 'many'; the world's greatest artist, who would have put Michaelangelo in the shade if he'd had the chance was some hunter-gatherer wandering the out back of Australia; the greatest athlete some peon in Mexico who never got the chance to do anything but slave away in the silver mines. |
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jaykimf
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Not really surprising when you consider the math. King John had 5 legitimate children. If each of them had 5 children and each of them had 5 children etc., King John's descendants would by now exceed the total population of the world. Obviously that didn't happen, but King John does have a lot of descendants. Probably most Americans with any English ancestry are descended from King John. Interesting article here:
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Looking for a Date
However, Chang�s paper proves something much more surprising. According to his calculations, there was a date in the not-too-distant past at which all individuals were either ancestors of everyone alive today, or ancestors of no one alive today. This date varies depending on what portion of the population you look at, but for Europe, it would seem to be in the neighborhood of A.D. 800�the year Charlemagne, king of the Franks, became emperor of Rome. And because Charlemagne is known to be the ancestor of some people alive today, that must mean he was the ancestor of all people of European descent. Of course, we pick on Charlemagne because he�s so well known, but he doesn�t have any special status as a common ancestor. In reality, about 80% of the people living in Europe at Charlemagne�s time were also ancestors of everyone from the West.
If this is a bit mind-boggling, it�s just the tip of the iceberg. Dr. Mark Humphrys, a professor at the School of Computing, Dublin City University, has analyzed the results of Chang�s work as well as numerous other academic papers and come up with some startling conclusions. According to Humphrys, everyone in the world is descended from the Egyptian royal house (ca. 1600 B.C.), and almost everyone in the world is descended from Confucius (ca. 500 B.C.). Moreover, he claims, nearly every Muslim, Jew, and Westerner is descended from the Prophet Muhammad (ca. A.D. 600). I don�t have the mathematical kung fu to evaluate these claims thoroughly, but they certainly are thought-provoking. Even more scary: the thought that thousands of years from now, I could be the ancestor of everyone alive. |
http://itotd.com/articles/226/most-recent-common-ancestors/ |
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hogwonguy1979
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