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JustinC
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The Scottish often dislike the English; the English don't care or are worried. What has Scotland done in the last 100 years?
The Australians often dislike the English; the English don't care. It's too far away and they know if they got rid of the Queen the costs of changing all of the currency and stamps isn't worth it.
The Irish already have got rid of the English and their recent history is plagued by economic chaos. The English don't care.
The Zimbabweans lost England's supervision; it didn't turn out too well.
The Sudanese were friends with England for a while; maybe they'll get back to where they were, one day.
India and Sri Lanka are a result of English mistakes. But also they benefit from infrastructure that was developed during England's time there.
In time the US will be seen also as the 'good guy' because the victor always writes the history books  |
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lemak
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| JustinC wrote: |
The Scottish often dislike the English; the English don't care or are worried. What has Scotland done in the last 100 years?
The Australians often dislike the English; the English don't care. It's too far away and they know if they got rid of the Queen the costs of changing all of the currency and stamps isn't worth it.
The Irish already have got rid of the English and their recent history is plagued by economic chaos. The English don't care.
The Zimbabweans lost England's supervision; it didn't turn out too well.
The Sudanese were friends with England for a while; maybe they'll get back to where they were, one day.
India and Sri Lanka are a result of English mistakes. But also they benefit from infrastructure that was developed during England's time there.
In time the US will be seen also as the 'good guy' because the victor always writes the history books |
Let me guess. You're English?
Actually most of the countries you listed couldn't give two hoots about fallen, depressing "great" Britain.
Washed up superpower who had some interest and influence 70+ years ago, but these days is the source of ridicule and pity amongst former colonies who are for the most part doing better than ye olde motherland, or horror at the fact the country whose language most of us make a living off these days virtually requires subtitles every time one of it's serfs speak.
Meanwhile the "great" British natives relocate to more desirable places in the old commonwealth in record numbers for purposes of better financial opportunities or better quality of life. Who cares about who exactly?
These days "great" Britain is on par with those gross old cougars who hang out in Geckos in Itaewon telling anyone who'll listen how amazing they are, and how all the guys in the place want them, and all the girls in the place want to *be* them, yet in reality everyone just looks at them and rolls their eyes and makes jokes at their expense as to how delusional they are.
great indeed.  |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Let me guess. You're English?
Actually most of the countries you listed couldn't give two hoots about fallen, depressing "great" Britain.
Washed up superpower who had some interest and influence 70+ years ago, but these days is the source of ridicule and pity amongst former colonies who are for the most part doing better than ye olde motherland, or horror at the fact the country whose language most of us make a living off these days virtually requires subtitles every time one of it's serfs speak.
Meanwhile the "great" British natives relocate to more desirable places in the
old commonwealth in record numbers for purposes of better financial opportunities or better quality of life. Who cares about who exactly?
These days "great" Britain is on par with those gross old cougars who hang out in Geckos in Itaewon telling anyone who'll listen how amazing they are, and how all the guys in the place want them, and all the girls in the place want to *be* them, yet in reality everyone just looks at them and rolls their
eyes and makes jokes at their expense as to how delusional they are.
great indeed. |
Actually you really sound like you actually do give two hoots about 'fallen depressing Great Britain', wherever you're from. Your rant comes across as pretty bitter for whatever reason. Kind of like the way the more obnoxious
Scottish or Irish people often sound after a few drinks. |
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lemak
Joined: 02 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Let me guess. You're English?
Actually most of the countries you listed couldn't give two hoots about fallen, depressing "great" Britain.
Washed up superpower who had some interest and influence 70+ years ago, but these days is the source of ridicule and pity amongst former colonies who are for the most part doing better than ye olde motherland, or horror at the fact the country whose language most of us make a living off these days virtually requires subtitles every time one of it's serfs speak.
Meanwhile the "great" British natives relocate to more desirable places in the
old commonwealth in record numbers for purposes of better financial opportunities or better quality of life. Who cares about who exactly?
These days "great" Britain is on par with those gross old cougars who hang out in Geckos in Itaewon telling anyone who'll listen how amazing they are, and how all the guys in the place want them, and all the girls in the place want to *be* them, yet in reality everyone just looks at them and rolls their
eyes and makes jokes at their expense as to how delusional they are.
great indeed. |
Actually you really sound like you actually do give two hoots about 'fallen depressing "great" Britain', wherever you're from. Your rant comes across as pretty bitter for whatever reason. Kind of like the way the more obnoxious
Scottish or Irish people often sound after a few drinks. |
Whatever, Catflaps. Isn't the whole purpose of this site/forum to speak one's mind? Bitter? meh. If that helps you deal with the facts and get some sleep then so be it. Reality is more like indifference combined with amusement at the role some people still think their sunset country plays in world affairs. Take that to mean giving a hoot, or two, or three or simply a passing interest - the point still stands.
Out of curiosity why exactly do Scottish or Irish express obnoxious viewpoints toward the "motherland"? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Out of curiosity why exactly do Scottish or Irish express obnoxious viewpoints toward the "motherland |
Don't know, you seem in a better position to tell me |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| It's not a very grown up poll is it? They could have made it a bit more scientific by asking more specific questions like 'what country would you most/least like to live in/visit/experience the culture of etc...'What is your least favourite country?' seems to be just encouraging simplistic knee- jerk prejudice. |
Ding Ding Ding!
We have a thread winner folks.
Win by K.O.
Well done. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| It's not a very grown up poll is it? They could have made it a bit more scientific by asking more specific questions like 'what country would you most/least like to live in/visit/experience the culture of etc...'What is your least favourite country?' seems to be just encouraging simplistic knee- jerk prejudice. |
Ding Ding Ding!
We have a thread winner folks.
Win by K.O.
Well done. |
Oh come on, guys, it's just a silly poll. I don't see anywhere what questions they actually asked to come up with the results, so who knows how they determined who is "loved" or "hated". If you guys have a link to that, I'd be interested. |
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hwa jang shil
Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Can anyone explain why Switzerland has garnered so much love in the poll? It's a pretty enough place but boring as ****. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Americans hate France and Canada in that order |
That used to be how I ranked them, but since being in Korea and having to deal with Canadians and realizing how hateful they were toward America for no reason, I'd put them before France now.
1. Canada
2. France |
Ironically, you have no good reason to hate France. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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"Familiarity breeds contempt"
It is ironic that the three countries South Korea is most like and emulates (Japan, China, and America) are the most hated. |
Americans, in contrast, tend to love countries that are most like their own.
Most Hated Countries in America:
1) Iran
2) North Korea
3) Afghanistan
4) Pakistan
5) Syria
Most Loved Countries in America:
1) Canada
2) Australia
3) Great Britain
4) Germany
5) Japan
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152735/americans-give-record-high-ratings-several-allies.aspx |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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You beat me to it. I just looked that up out of curiosity. These polls are just popularity contests (no need for scientific data for that), nothing more, and should not be taken too seriously. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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You beat me to it. I just looked that up out of curiosity. These polls are just popularity contests (no need for scientific data for that), nothing more, and should not be taken too seriously. |
It's not just a question of being scientific though it sounds too vague to be able to answer properly. If someone asked me what chocolate bar I liked the most, for example, it'd obviously be for the purpose of eating it but if someone asked me what country I liked most my first reaction would be, 'in what way?'. I love Thailand for example, but I wouldn't want to live there. I'd love to live in France but am not sure about the people. I quite like living in Korea, but would never come on holiday here, in the worldcup, I'd probably support Ireland next, if England got knocked out etc...etc.. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Most Loved and Hated Countries in South Korea |
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"Here are the 2012 results compared with 2002 in parenthesis (translated from Japanese):
■ South Korea�s Top 5 Least Favorite Countries
1. Japan � 44.1% (33.4% in 2002)
2. China � 19.1% (4.6%)
3. North Korea � 11.7% (17.3%)
4. America � 4.8% (18%)
5. Iraq � 0.7% (0.7%)
■ South Korea�s Top 5 Favorite Countries
1. America � 21.5% (16.5% in 2002)
2. Australia � 19% (12.5%)
3. Switzerland � 8% (8.8%)
4. Canada � 7.4% (6.6%)
5. England � 5.1% (3%)"
http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/s-korea-hates-japan-more-than-n-korea-gallup-poll-reveals
So Koreans have become more anti-Japanese within the past decade, but their view of America has improved significantly. |
Look at the growing animosity towards China. I think that's interesting... and wonder if it'll every play big in politics here. |
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kiknkorea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Should make for a fun bronze medal match Friday night.  |
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Squire
Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| It's not a very grown up poll is it? They could have made it a bit more scientific by asking more specific questions like 'what country would you most/least like to live in/visit/experience the culture of etc...'What is your least favourite country?' seems to be just encouraging simplistic knee- jerk prejudice. |
I see your point, but I don't think the question itself warrants any serious consideration. Most of the countries South Koreans profess to hate are countries with a relatively large South Korean population, so they obviously don't hate the idea of living there too much. They're also countries Koreans visit in large numbers, and in the case of North Korea, China and Japan, countries with a similar culture |
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