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[sck2012]

A little bit of information would be great if you guys don't mind.

Please don't question the situation, just take it for how I explain it and any advice is very much welcomed.

Situation:

Person breaks E2 visa prematurely. Person has legit reasons, however does not report the school. Person leaves Korea. Person tries to come back, however the school has lodged a complaint and person will not be issued another E2 visa. Immigration tells person, in exact words: "you can try again in a few years, maybe the politics will have changed then".

Please don't question this situation as fantasy or a lie. No child abuse or criminal act occurred at any point.

The Student visa / scholarship:

Am I right in thinking that the person would not need to go through Korean immigration in order to attain a student visa (for Masters)?

Am I right in thinking that it would be the embassy in that persons country that would issue the visa?

Am I right in thinking that the University in question would not submit documents to immigration for authorization?

Cheers in advance for the information.

[Troglodyte]

[viciousdinosaur]

How does someone like you with a questionable grasp of the English language get a BA or become an English teacher?

[sck2012]

I explained things in the most simplistic of ways. Please refrain from questioning my credentials and in particular, questioning my linguistic abilities. I speak a variety of languages and I'm quite confident that my eloquence could make you look rather foolish. To cut to the chase: if you have nothing productive to say, steer clear of my thread and crawl back under whatever dark hole you emerged from. I do hope your comprehension of my comment is in no way "questionable".

Thank you for the input Troglodyte. Immigration has no hidden agenda, and sometimes, events occur and decisions are made that go against what you traditionally believe are possible.

Excuse me if I slip back into questionable grasp of English mode but...image if a person leaves a school. Person does not break any laws, but angers employer. Employer and recruiter consistently bad mouth person to immigration. They complain about that employee leaving an apartment in an unfit state. They complain that the teacher treated children with contempt and shouted / scolded them on a regular basis. They say that the employee arrived late, took liberties and behaved in a consistently unprofessional manner. Now of course, these have not been proven with hard evidence since they didn't occur. On the other hand, that employee did run away without uttering a single word. So said person handled the situation in a poor fashion and pays the price. Immigration officer sees what appears on his computer screen and bases his decision on conversations with previous employer.

I've gone off on a tangent unfortunately. Back to the Masters...

Essentially, upon sending my documents to the University, am I right in assuming that they would send those documents off to immigration? I questioned this because the scholarship scheme does not require the sending off of a passport photocopy or a criminal check.

Cheers for the help.

[sck2012]

I believe the visa would be issued in my home country and my first dealings with immigration would occur upon arrival. I would need to attain my ARC, but surely at that point, with a functional visa, it would not get revoked?

[rainman3277]

[CentralCali]

sck2012? How do you pronounce that, sock twenty-twelve?

[sojusucks]

What's in Korea for you that's worth all of this stress and effort just to hang around?

[Captain Corea]

If you want a student visa... eventually it's going to go through Immi and they're going to need your passport and the like.

If you've got a black mark on our file, they may or may not do something about it. I know that sounds vague, but unfortunately some things are left to their discretion (the black mark itself sounds suspect).

Why not get everything processed in your home country, and see if it's a go? If you're approved with a visa at that point, I think your odds are way better.

[coralreefer_1]

One point.

You may be issued the student visa in the home country, but in many cases it would not be for the entire duration of the program, and you would have to renew within Korea for the second year of the grad program.

However, I personally dont think any of the situation you described would affect a student visa, but it may however affect the ability to get permission to legally work on the student visa.

Also, i dont believe the university sends anything off to immigration unless you are basically letting them apply for the visa/renew the visa for you. Otherwise, they would simply give you the documents you need and you would do so yourself, but yes, at some point immi will get an application for visa issuance with your passport info.

[ttompatz]

[sck2012]

From South Korea itself, in person, at the immigration office, immigration refused to grant an E2 visa because of the past events, i.e: the midnight run. Speaking to the man face to face, he actually seemed extremely sorry for the rejection, stating that it was not his decision, but rather the decision of other people. Immigration refused to listen to any other side of the story, other than what they had on file. Upon declination, he said what I told you about before, that in the past maybe it would not have been a problem, however a more stringent line on things is currently being taken. He did in fact just say to give it time and apply again when policy has loosened up.

I have no questions about E2 visas, my concern is that of a student visa.

Thanks for the advice.

[sck2012]

Oh, and my sincerest apologies for being thin-skinned in the face of pointlessly invasive abuse. Allow me to take back my arrogance and start again...

- Yes you are correct Mr. Vicious Dinosaur...I am indeed an illiterate, uneducated idiot. I too wonder how exactly I became a teacher of English, especially considering my ineptitude. I just want you to know, that in order to get the information and answers I have requested, I am willing to be your personal punching bag in the process...

Now that's cleared up, we can move on.

Thanks.

[viciousdinosaur]

[sck2012]

I didn't come here with any form of attitude problem. I frequented a message board that I believed could provide information. I politely requested help from anybody in the know. I respond positively and with gratitude to any actual help that is given. Despite these facts however, and despite the fact that you rocked up with unprovoked and insulting comments, I am the character who is in the wrong.

I've noticed that threads often get sidetracked around these parts. They get dragged into the gutter by individuals who thrive off creating conflict in an online setting, for whatever reason.

I didn't come on here with an arrogant tone. I didn't portray myself to be a future Nobel prize winning author. I'm aware of how things work here however, and instead of making myself appear pompous in response to the comments of someone I don't even know, should just ignore the fact.

So thank you for the advice, it's much appreciated.