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*Good* Online TEFL/TESOL certification?

 
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:10 am    Post subject: *Good* Online TEFL/TESOL certification? Reply with quote

I'm pondering coming back to Korea for one more extended stint, but if I do, I want to do it right and learn how to teach. I checked my uni here at home, but their certification program is 6 courses, which means a full year here at home. They don't appear to offer any distance learning certification, either.

Sure, I can google some online certification programs, but if anyone has done this route and knows a good, quality program, whether it be through a commercial site or a proper university, I'm all ears. I don't mind if it's a year-long program like my university, as long as I can do it through a distance program, and reputable.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a distance education certificate program worth its weight in gold in Canada: It's at the University of Saskatchewan. It's recognized by the industry's national organization and meets the high standards of Ontario's mandatory certification.

It's relatively cheap and reputable. The catch is that it's a lot of work. When I looked into it I was surprised that one does as much work in six months as those run-of-the-mill Australian Master's programs. (That's why the certificate is reputable, I guess.)

You don't have to be Canadian to take it. It'd be nice to be able to say it's THE distance program in Canada treated on par with CELTA and Trinity. And Koreans I think might appreciate it, given their impressions of Canada.

Most importantly, of course, you'd learn a lot, it seems.

I'm still tempted to do it.
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osangrl



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what ive heard TESOL is a waste of time.

If you just want the certificate go and buy one, or the CELTA in Itaewon.

Twisted Evil
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

osangrl wrote:
from what ive heard TESOL is a waste of time.

If you just want the certificate go and buy one, or the CELTA in Itaewon.

Twisted Evil


I think Manchester University in England do online stuff.

http://www.une.edu.au/arts/LCL/disciplines/linguistics/appl_ling.htm

Toby
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby wrote:
I think Manchester University in England do online stuff.

http://www.une.edu.au/arts/LCL/disciplines/linguistics/appl_ling.htm

Toby

There's some mistake. This link is for a low-rep degree-mill in Australia not for the reputable Man. U. in the U.K.
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Toby



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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Toby wrote:
I think Manchester University in England do online stuff.

http://www.une.edu.au/arts/LCL/disciplines/linguistics/appl_ling.htm

Toby

There's some mistake. This link is for a low-rep degree-mill in Australia not for the reputable Man. U. in the U.K.


I know it wasn' for manchester. I can't find that link. I thought I had it as well. Bot no.

There is an online DipEd and CELTA run out of manchester though.
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bepositive



Joined: 11 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recommend a good distance learning program.
Try http://www.intesolinternational.com.

I did my course with them before coming to Korea, and was glad I did.

Cheers

Sooze
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mb2086



Joined: 10 Feb 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might also want to try www.intesoltesoltraining.com - fully online and validated TESOL course (once you've received your study materials which can be either paper or CD ROM).
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Bunnymonster



Joined: 16 Mar 2004
Location: Tokyo

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 4:28 am    Post subject: Sooooooo.... Reply with quote

Do people think that these courses will pay for themselves in increased salaries? I'm seriously looking into doing one as I'm currently teaching here and thinking about extending my trip a bit. How hardcore are they, they state 150 hours of work over 3-6 months is that a reasonable estimate of the time involved or not? I'd be happy enough to put in that amount of time especially if it would give me greater flexibility/leverage when dealing with employers.
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mb2086



Joined: 10 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the course with Intesol in two months. It depends how much free time you have but you should allow up to 12 weeks, though it can be done in 6.
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyz,

Here's what I suggest:

Complete an ESOL Endorsement for the state you plan on residing in (for tuition purposes...it can be transferred wherever you end up).

TESOL Endorsements are graduate level courses that are mandated by the Dept. of Ed. for each state (usually 5 core courses), and will allow you to teach in the public school setting (secondary) for pull-out students. By pull-out, I mean LEP Ss who are in ESOL classes for half the day, the other half in your class (in whichever subject you teach). Also, if your school has no ESL program, then they'll place these students in your class. Full on ESOL educators must have more than the ESOL Endorsement (well, for FL, that is).

Also, these courses are transerrable to any state school (across America, I'd imagine) if you fancy getting your MA later in a related field, but unfortunately you are usually only allowed to transfer 6-9 credits (so 2 classes would be tossed).

The ESOL endorsement is offered totally on-line, and in most cases you can have the mandatory first/last meeting waived.

Here's the fun part....this endorsement (like the MA) does not help you become a better teacher. All it does is help you better classify Ss, place them, and create appropriate syllabi....not much on actual teaching. That is what experience is for, I suppose.

Shoosh,

Ryst
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mb2086



Joined: 10 Feb 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those rules don't apply in UK or if you're outside the US and not a US citizen. In the UK TESOL courses are either validated by the College of Teachers or Actdec or both or neither, unless you do a degree level TESOL. The course I did was a certificate in Educational Studies in TESOL which should be good enough to give you a jump start in the job market.
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mb2086 wrote:
Those rules don't apply in UK or if you're outside the US and not a US citizen. In the UK TESOL courses are either validated by the College of Teachers or Actdec or both or neither, unless you do a degree level TESOL. The course I did was a certificate in Educational Studies in TESOL which should be good enough to give you a jump start in the job market.


You are right, but Zyz is in the US, and a US citizen. Also, before he left, his intention was to work in the public school setting (or thereabouts).

Also, the ESOL Endorsement is accepted in Korea. When I used to go on univeristy job interviews, two univs commented on how they preferred this certificate over the CELTA, or the like.

Shoosh,

Ryst
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2004 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, though I am in the U.S., I wouldn't do ESL here unless I was going to be in a city with high demand for it, like New York City or something.

The clock is up; I'll explain later when I've got time.
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