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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
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As elitist as this may sound, deep in my heart I categorize "losers" according to their motivation for being in country.
I went to Korea because I wanted to be there not because I had to be there.
I consider "losers" as the vast majority of teachers who are only there to pay off their student loans.
The reason being is that these individuals, for the most part, could care less about Korean culture. Their behavior is reflective of this and they are the ones who we read about in the news papers.
They refuse to learn even rudimentary Korean and are most likely the ass clowns seen acting drunk in public and speaking English very loudly to ensure that the locals can understand them better. |
Truth be told:
Learning/ knowing Korean isn't really that helpful in Korea.
Foreigners who speak Korean in class often get in trouble for using it. |
Speaking Korean in class may be a bad idea but learning Korean is VERY helpful in KOREA outside your class.....
As for foreigners getting in trouble for speaking Korean in Korea, thats pretty funny if you meant outside the classroom..... |
한국어는 안다는 것은 실제로 별로 쓸데 없다러고요
수업외 생활까지도
적어도 이것은 나의 관철 과 겸험 이에요. |
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mike in brasil
Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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The more Korean you know the better the quality of life while living in Korea.
I understand why most E2ers don't bother with it, but I just like learning languages. Korean is fun to learn. It's like lego; you snap all the parts together to make sentences.
I find most Koreans want to use me to practice their English but when I do find those that speak to me regularly in Korean, they appreciate it. It's also nice not to rely on others to always interpret for me to get stuff done. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| It's worth learning a second language, and Korean is a good choice for many reasons especially if you're teaching there. If you can speak Korean fluently, there is a good chance it will affect your being able to stay in Korea to teach. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Nursing is a pretty low class job generally. I would never call anyone a loser who helps sick people, it's a noble profession in that sense, but in turns of social standing esl teachers would outclass lots of nurses, but in turn be out classed by the ones with the more specialized jobs. The same goes for IT. |
A nurse could get hired as an ESL teacher. An ESL teacher could not get hired as a nurse without a nursing degree or LPN certificate. Nursing is a professional occupation. Nursing is not a low class job. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:52 am Post subject: |
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A nurse could get hired as an ESL teacher. An ESL teacher could not get hired as a nurse without a nursing degree or LPN certificate. Nursing is a professional occupation. Nursing is not a low class job. |
A nurse could get hired as president of the United States without needing any other qualifications but he/she would need them to be a truck driver or a cook. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:20 am Post subject: |
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A nurse could get hired as an ESL teacher. An ESL teacher could not get hired as a nurse without a nursing degree or LPN certificate. Nursing is a professional occupation. Nursing is not a low class job. |
A nurse could get hired as president of the United States without needing any other qualifications but he/she would need them to be a truck driver or a cook. |
Well technically you do not get hired as president of the US, you get nominated and then possibly elected but sure.  |
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Saudiman
Joined: 12 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:26 am Post subject: |
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The only real "losers" I find in Korea are young Canadian men who come here, drink themselves silly, tear down American teachers and stab them in the back because they have an inferiority complex, and act as though women should fall at their feet.
This applies except for Canadians from the Prairie Provinces who still seem to have a sense of kindness and decency, instead of sarcastic humor.
Almost every teacher I met in Korea who was still in his 20s and from Toronto, Vancouver, or Eastern Canada seemed to have a thing against Americans. Passing the nights away drinking in bars, etc.
Oh, and said Canadians seem to be the ones pointing the finger at others and calling them "losers" all the time. Not so common in America, God Bless Her! |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
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| Nursing is a pretty low class job generally. I would never call anyone a loser who helps sick people, it's a noble profession in that sense, but in turns of social standing esl teachers would outclass lots of nurses, but in turn be out classed by the ones with the more specialized jobs. The same goes for IT. |
A nurse could get hired as an ESL teacher. An ESL teacher could not get hired as a nurse without a nursing degree or LPN certificate. Nursing is a professional occupation. Nursing is not a low class job. |
Not all nursing jobs require a 4 year degree, so no, you're wrong. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Almost every teacher I met in Korea who was still in his 20s and from Toronto, Vancouver, or Eastern Canada seemed to have a thing against Americans. Passing the nights away drinking in bars, etc.
Oh, and said Canadians seem to be the ones pointing the finger at others and calling them "losers" all the time. Not so common in America, God Bless Her! |
That's it! That's the reason Canadians are so popular here! We both dislikes Americans. Actually now that I think about it, is there any country that doesn't dislike America? So what if they crashed the world economy with their Republican voodoo economics, supported dictators in the Middle East, started several wars with non-aggressive countries using cooked-up evidence, prevented the Kyoto Protocol from saving us from global warming, and pissed-off every Canadian within 30 km of the border by treating them like illegal immigrants every time they come over to the states to buy a couple T-shirts at the local Target? I mean, really, when you think about it, what's not to love about America?
And, Toronto, Vancouver, and Eastern Canada, well add those together and you pretty much got most of Canada. |
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seala70
Joined: 13 Mar 2011
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Saudiman wrote: |
The only real "losers" I find in Korea are young Canadian men who come here, drink themselves silly, tear down American teachers and stab them in the back because they have an inferiority complex, and act as though women should fall at their feet.
This applies except for Canadians from the Prairie Provinces who still seem to have a sense of kindness and decency, instead of sarcastic humor.
Almost every teacher I met in Korea who was still in his 20s and from Toronto, Vancouver, or Eastern Canada seemed to have a thing against Americans. Passing the nights away drinking in bars, etc.
Oh, and said Canadians seem to be the ones pointing the finger at others and calling them "losers" all the time. Not so common in America, God Bless Her! |
I'd never had a problem with Canadians as an American until I taught English in Korea. There was something about the Canadians that I met in Korea that were very different than the ones I met in Canada or the US. They all seemed a bit off and seedy to me. I can't really explain it. Maybe it was bad luck but it was very consistent. Fellow Americans were hit or miss. Nearly all the Australians I met were very cool though. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| Saudiman wrote: |
Almost every teacher I met in Korea who was still in his 20s and from Toronto, Vancouver, or Eastern Canada seemed to have a thing against Americans. Passing the nights away drinking in bars, etc.
Oh, and said Canadians seem to be the ones pointing the finger at others and calling them "losers" all the time. Not so common in America, God Bless Her! |
That's it! That's the reason Canadians are so popular here! We both dislikes Americans. Actually now that I think about it, is there any country that doesn't dislike America? So what if they crashed the world economy with their Republican voodoo economics, supported dictators in the Middle East, started several wars with non-aggressive countries using cooked-up evidence, prevented the Kyoto Protocol from saving us from global warming, and pissed-off every Canadian within 30 km of the border by treating them like illegal immigrants every time they come over to the states to buy a couple T-shirts at the local Target? I mean, really, when you think about it, what's not to love about America?
And, Toronto, Vancouver, and Eastern Canada, well add those together and you pretty much got most of Canada. |
VD you're a fool. Canadians get blasted on here as being the WORST expat in terms of getting along with, and for good reason. Funny enough, you seem to fit in with the description of most of them. That inferior complex runs deep in Canada, eh? |
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Kimchifart
Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| Saudiman wrote: |
The only real "losers" I find in Korea are young Canadian men who come here, drink themselves silly, tear down American teachers and stab them in the back because they have an inferiority complex, and act as though women should fall at their feet.
This applies except for Canadians from the Prairie Provinces who still seem to have a sense of kindness and decency, instead of sarcastic humor.
Almost every teacher I met in Korea who was still in his 20s and from Toronto, Vancouver, or Eastern Canada seemed to have a thing against Americans. Passing the nights away drinking in bars, etc.
Oh, and said Canadians seem to be the ones pointing the finger at others and calling them "losers" all the time. Not so common in America, God Bless Her! |
Prairie provinces Canadians = code for right wing Canadians. |
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Saudiman
Joined: 12 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Prairie-province Canadians = people who treat others fairly, don't get overly cynical, and don't think they have to act as if they are European to be cool. An old song by Gino Vanelli, a Canadian, was called "Living Inside Myself". Yeah, that's what a drunk Canadian does, lives inside himself as he sends back his alcohol-depleted funds to the Maritimes and hopes he never goes back, and is as miserable as they come. Usually estranged from family. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| Nursing is a pretty low class job generally. I would never call anyone a loser who helps sick people, it's a noble profession in that sense, but in turns of social standing esl teachers would outclass lots of nurses, but in turn be out classed by the ones with the more specialized jobs. The same goes for IT. |
A nurse could get hired as an ESL teacher. An ESL teacher could not get hired as a nurse without a nursing degree or LPN certificate. Nursing is a professional occupation. Nursing is not a low class job. |
Not all nursing jobs require a 4 year degree, so no, you're wrong. |
Seriously. Anyone who thinks that an LPN working as a floor nurse in a nursing home has a high status position needs to actually visit a nursing home. My mom is a nurse by education, and she has a very high status position at this point, but a big part of why she went in the direction she did professionally was that she was tired of being in low status positions. Nurses do generally make high salaries, but in a lot of cases they're making that money while working horrible hours doing things that other people don't want to do.
| Saudiman wrote: |
| Prairie-province Canadians = people who treat others fairly, don't get overly cynical, and don't think they have to act as if they are European to be cool. An old song by Gino Vanelli, a Canadian, was called "Living Inside Myself". Yeah, that's what a drunk Canadian does, lives inside himself as he sends back his alcohol-depleted funds to the Maritimes and hopes he never goes back, and is as miserable as they come. Usually estranged from family. |
Just because you don't get along with Maritimers doesn't mean the rest of us have to miss out as well. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| Saudiman wrote: |
Almost every teacher I met in Korea who was still in his 20s and from Toronto, Vancouver, or Eastern Canada seemed to have a thing against Americans. Passing the nights away drinking in bars, etc.
Oh, and said Canadians seem to be the ones pointing the finger at others and calling them "losers" all the time. Not so common in America, God Bless Her! |
That's it! That's the reason Canadians are so popular here! We both dislikes Americans. Actually now that I think about it, is there any country that doesn't dislike America? So what if they crashed the world economy with their Republican voodoo economics, supported dictators in the Middle East, started several wars with non-aggressive countries using cooked-up evidence, prevented the Kyoto Protocol from saving us from global warming, and pissed-off every Canadian within 30 km of the border by treating them like illegal immigrants every time they come over to the states to buy a couple T-shirts at the local Target? I mean, really, when you think about it, what's not to love about America?
And, Toronto, Vancouver, and Eastern Canada, well add those together and you pretty much got most of Canada. |
VD you're a fool. Canadians get blasted on here as being the WORST expat in terms of getting along with, and for good reason. Funny enough, you seem to fit in with the description of most of them. That inferior complex runs deep in Canada, eh? |
Apparently Dodge7 can't recognize when someone is mocking another for their stupid comment.
[quote=Dodge7]Canadians get blasted on here as being the WORST expat in terms of getting along with, and for good reason. [/quote]
Are you on a different forum than I am?
On a serious note. Canadians do not hate Americans. Why would I hate my own family members? And most Canadians have family in the US. Do people trade jabs in the office over political differences? Yes they do. But that's not any different than a red state and blue state person arguing over gay marriage.
However, there is a certain ignorance about Americans which is attributed to their media and educational system. Americans genuinely didn't know why they were attacked on 9/11. It was only after the fact that the media decided to tell them all about how they double-crossed a group of rebel fighters they used to fight a proxy war for them against the Russians. Americans don't know that their army of "democracy" stood by as South Korea's dictator mowed down protestors in the streets. Even most Americans struggle to name the provinces of Canada, and there's only ten. I can name all fifty states, territories, and their capitals. And so could many other Canadians.
Here's a good article that tackles this topic. http://www.vexen.co.uk/USA/hateamerica.html |
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