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Whoa. Completely forgot I'd written this here (thought it was a different forum). Surprised to see it's still going. Some great info!

Gonna try to stir the pot a bit

With regards to what Mr. BlackCat wrote: is it objectively wrong to judge obese people? I mean, to a limited extent (ex: "That person shouldn't be eating that" or "That person doesn't have any self-control"). If I were to dress like one of those Korean guys decked out in capris, a super tight buttoned up shirt "complete" with bowtie, holding a manbag back home (California), you better believe people would judge me and some might even vocalize what they thought. I'm sure a lot of people here on Dave's would say I deserved any flack I got. I can't even remember the number of posts I've read here about how holding your girl's bag is a no-no, fashion here vs. home, etc. So why is weight given a free pass?

I mean, fashion doesn't really hurt anyone (save the eye blinding jokes--and I guess it does harm animals and small children in sweatshops). An overweight population in the States, however, weighs heavily on the healthcare system. I recently flew home and had to sit between 2 fat people and felt like I wanted to die. The whole time I thought, "Why did I pay the same price as them when I have half the space?"

I guess since I've been there, done that in the weight loss world, so to speak, it's harder for me NOT to judge. I can look back at my weight loss journey and say with 100% certainty that losing the weight wasn't anywhere near difficult. One poster DID bring up a valid point about age, but I still firmly believe that if you have an ounce of self-control, controlling your weight should not impact how much you enjoy life--unless your idea of enjoying life is a 24/7 fatty food binge.

Sure, if you are content with your body, whatever shape it's in, great. But I think it's a bit unreasonable to expect others not to judge. I also feel like the burden is on the overweight to accept whatever treatment they get because it's their choice to remain overweight.

I suppose my views are a bit controversial but that's what I think.

I will concede that suppose I am projecting my values onto others. But I think we all have agreed here that being even somewhat fit is a good thing. Can anyone morbidly overweight really claim to be totally happy with him or herself?

I do NOT feel like I am superior to overweight people because weight is obviously one of a multitude of attributes that make a great person great; I'd be ignorant to think I'm better than anyone. However, I will always wonder why that one obese girl I seem to bump into several times a month on Kyungridan is always holding a pizza.

If anyone took my OP as me demanding you to qualify yourself to me, I apologize. I didn't convey what I wanted to say properly. It was more--I'm sick of excuses, weight loss doesn't have to be hard. I should have amended it with, if you're happy with yourself, great. If you aren't, think about weight loss in a different light.

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[Gorf]

Lift weights. Cut carbs. Problem solved.

[Mr. BlackCat]

[Squire]

I've always been interesting in weight loss because it's something I've never had to deal with. My metabolism is naturally very fast, and boosted by smoking. Between meals I get so hungry it hurts, but I'm lucky to maintain an athletic build. I often wonder whether I'd have the willpower to lose weight if I start putting it on. Again, I was lucky to have a healthy diet growing up so drinking fizzy drinks is a rarity for me. Just water, tea and coffee on a regular day.

I think anybody willing to drastically change their lifestyle to lose weight should check out what sumo wrestlers do to put on weight, then do the exact opposite of all those things.

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@BlackCat

Again, I am not sure how you got from my post that I am judging anyome to make me fefeel better about myself. The only thing I want is for people that want to lose weight that it's simple. Obviously if people keep making excuses I'll roll my eyes but I don't feel better about myself for it. I feel like we're in the same boat here.

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Fat people would save themselves a lot of hate if they didn't sit next to anyone. Or walked in front of people in hallways. Or entered elevators with others. The simple fact is that they just take too much space and are too slow and often smell pretty bad.

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