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Switching from a tourist visa to an E2 visa while in Korea
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valium kilmer



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:
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but my original post was to see if there would be a way to fly in on a tourist visa and then have that changed while in the country.


That's already answered, no.


I realise that - and then you asked for clarification, so I restated.

I'm curious as to how Benjamino changed though- which country did you come in from?

As said, I've more or less completely given up on the wedding (unless tomorrow morning I get an email with a visa issuance number... which is, at best, extremely unlikely). If I knew there would be no problems entering on a one way ticket I'd do that and cough up for a visa run, but it's a bit of an expensive risk to take (including the trip to Japan).
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cannot change your status from a visa waiver stamp (entry on arrival) to an E2 while IN KOREA.
A visa run to a Korean embassy/consulate in another country (usually Japan) IS necessary.

Anyone who says otherwise is either mistaken, confused or lying.

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valium kilmer



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just found out my documents have arrived (4 days late and subsequently uninsured - really glad I paid for that premium package!)

If I get a visa issuance number, do you happen to know if it will be valid to use in Japan - i.e. regardless of which embassy issues the actual visa?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

valium kilmer wrote:
I've just found out my documents have arrived (4 days late and subsequently uninsured - really glad I paid for that premium package!)

If I get a visa issuance number, do you happen to know if it will be valid to use in Japan - i.e. regardless of which embassy issues the actual visa?


The visa confirmation number can be used at any Korean embassy/consulate.

Typically, for those in the northern 1/2 of the country they do the visa run to Osaka. For those in the south 1/2 of the country they catch the ferry over to Fukuoka.

In both cases it is an overnight process (drop your visa off one day and pick it up after 13:00 on the 2nd day.

There are sticky threads in the travel forum for everything you need to know for a visa run to either location. Nothing has changed in the last 15 years or so.

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valium kilmer



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Useful information, thanks!
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Smudger



Joined: 26 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
You cannot change your status from a visa waiver stamp (entry on arrival) to an E2 while IN KOREA.
A visa run to a Korean embassy/consulate in another country (usually Japan) IS necessary.

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How long does this process usually take from signing a contract to getting the visa in Japan? (I've had an E2 previously so I should be on Immi file)
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smudger wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
You cannot change your status from a visa waiver stamp (entry on arrival) to an E2 while IN KOREA.
A visa run to a Korean embassy/consulate in another country (usually Japan) IS necessary.

.


How long does this process usually take from signing a contract to getting the visa in Japan? (I've had an E2 previously so I should be on Immi file)


4-7 (working) days for the visa confirmation number.
2-3 days for the visa run (usually an overnight trip).

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Benjamino



Joined: 21 Apr 2012
Location: Jinju

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
You cannot change your status from a visa waiver stamp (entry on arrival) to an E2 while IN KOREA.
A visa run to a Korean embassy/consulate in another country (usually Japan) IS necessary.

Anyone who says otherwise is either mistaken, confused or lying.

.


Well I did and all I did was take my the 'change of status' forms to immigration . http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/index.html

click 'change of status' and look for 'Foreign Language Instructor (E-2)'

Quite clear there that is says it is possible and it even tells you how to go about it.

Seems I'm not confused,lying or mistaken.
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benjamino wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
You cannot change your status from a visa waiver stamp (entry on arrival) to an E2 while IN KOREA.
A visa run to a Korean embassy/consulate in another country (usually Japan) IS necessary.

Anyone who says otherwise is either mistaken, confused or lying.

.


Well I did and all I did was take my the 'change of status' forms to immigration . http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/index.html

click 'change of status' and look for 'Foreign Language Instructor (E-2)'

Quite clear there that is says it is possible and it even tells you how to go about it.

Seems I'm not confused,lying or mistaken.



I'd really like to get to the bottom of this one. If this guy is claiming that it is possible to switch from a tourist visa to E2 in country than that obsoletes a lot of what teachers have gotten used to around here. It means there's no reason at all for visa transfers, D-10 visas, and the multiple visa runs I had to do.

What does everyone think? Is this guy a liar? An idiot? Extremely lucky? Or the smartest guy in Korea?
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Benjamino



Joined: 21 Apr 2012
Location: Jinju

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would I lie about it?

It's fairly straight forward to see on their website that it's possible.

Below is a copy and paste job off there

Required documents when applying for change of status to Foreign Language Instructor by invitation by the Minister of Education & Human Resources Development (city or provincial superintendent of education)
※ Items subject to change depending on individual circumstances.
Common documents
- Passport
- Alien registration card (if you have)
- Application form
- Fee (revenue stamp 50,000won, but who entered without visa or who aren't registered yet should pay 10,000won additionally)
Documents by status of sojourn
- When you apply change of status into Foreign Language Instructor (E-2) with Invitation by Minister of Education, Science and Technology
� Photo (size: 3.5Cm * 4.5Cm)
� Notice of success as an English instructor by Minister of Education, Science and Technology (original and a copy)
� Contract of employment (original and a copy)
� Copy of business registration
� Result of HIV and TBPE test by general hospital, hospital, clinic under Article 3 of the Medical Law or public health center under Article 7 of the Regional Health Law or medical center under Article 8.(The result of HIV and TBPE test issued within 3 months from the application date.)
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you really do this or are you just reading something off the website and thinking you know what it is saying?
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Below is a copy and paste job off there


PERSONAL EXPERIENCE TRUMPS COPYING AND PASTING.

So, this guy is mistaken. The "change of status" part pertains to people who already have an E2 or better, not a tourist visa.

Quote:
Notice of success as an English instructor by Minister of Education, Science and Technology (original and a copy)


As a bonus knockout punch, how do you give a "Notice of success as an English instructor by Minister of Education" on a tourist visa?

Hover over this text ---- >If you can read this, you have been pinned.<----
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh you know what, I think I finally figured out what this numb-nut is confused about. Of course, when processing an E2 visa, you don't actually have the visa until you visit immigration when you get here and fill out the form that he just listed above. But! To get the visa confirmation number you need to apply from outside the country!! Now I guess, theoretically, if you had a twin who looked exactly like you, you could get an E2 from within in the country without leaving. Your twin takes your duplicate passport to the Korean consulate in your home country, gets the confirmation number put in, mails it to you, and then you go to immigration.

Everything that guy listed is what happens when you visit immigration, BUT, it won't happen without the confirmation number. Maybe this guy is just confused about the process. He forgot about the visa sticker in his passport or something.
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Benjamino



Joined: 21 Apr 2012
Location: Jinju

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see people on this thread telling me what I did or didn't do. Would one of you like to tell me what I had for breakfast, seems as you're so well versed on my life.


I'll break it down into bullet points for you all and then you can take it up with immigration on how I seem to have slipped through the net.

* I sent my docs off to Korea so as to receive a visa assurance number

* Time ticked on rapidly with nothing coming back my way so and I was advised to enter Korea on a tourist visa. At this point I fully expected a 'visa run' to Japan.

* I entered Korea and got a Tourist stamp in my passport (no sticker in my passport at all, viciousdinosaur take note)

* I was taken to immigration by the recruiter with all my docs, offer letter (I assume this is the Notice of success as an English instructor by Minister of Education), contract and visa application form

* They processed everything, didn't ask too many questions and told me to come back in 12 days for my ARC

* Low and behold I got my ARC

At no point did I visit a Korean consulate or embassy or leave the country.

I thought this forum was about giving advice and answering questions. I didn't expect to get a torrent or abuse and be called a liar for telling how I got my E2 status 'in country'

To the posters above I suggest instead of replying and telling me how I didn't get my visa or calling me a liar. Why don't you contact immigration and tell them there's an illegal in their country seems as you're so certain what I'm saying is a falsehood.
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You still don't get it. This isn't about you or what you did. Nobody cares about you. What interests me is whether or not what you did is consistent with immigration policy or just a fluke. If what you did is consistent with immigration policy it changes the game for a lot of people out there, and it's a big break with the past. It would mean the end of visa runs altogether. Can't you appreciate how that might be a big deal to people other than yourself?

Ttompatz weigh in here. Have you heard anything about a policy change at immigration?
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