Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Contract and Flight

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ESLJenna



Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Contract and Flight Reply with quote

Hello,

I will be teaching in Korea at the end of the month. My issue is that my contract says the school will provide me with a ticket before the beginning of the contract. Now my director is telling me I need to buy the ticket and be reimbursed after arriving there.

How should I approach this? I know I should say something, but how do I go about it?

Thanks
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Keeper



Joined: 11 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the exact working on the contract? Did you point it out to them? At what point in the hiring process are you now at? Do they have your apostilled docs? Do you have the visa issuance number?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
iggyb



Joined: 29 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things get complicated if they have already issued you a visa.

If not, I'd hold out for the ticket rather than waiting for the money once you arrive. Too many people have been burnt this way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ESLJenna



Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says exactly that, that the ticket will be provided by the school before I get to Korea. I sent all the documents in, and he just took it to immigration today. I sent him an email pointing it out as politely as I could.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read through the thread titled, "Immediate Help Requested, Hagwon Issues".

Be careful, you could be next. I'm not trying to be rude, just realistic.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ESLJenna



Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He got my documents yesterday and took them to immigration. As soon as he told me that I would be reimbursed after I got to Korea, I emailed him back saying I thought the contract said the ticket would be provided before I got there. I hope this is ok. I've been so stressed trying to get everything ready, but I don't want to get into a bad situation if I can avoid it. I hope it's just a simple misunderstanding and it turns out ok.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope will get you in trouble for sure.

Make certain of everything and I do mean everything beforehand.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESLJenna wrote:
He got my documents yesterday and took them to immigration. As soon as he told me that I would be reimbursed after I got to Korea, I emailed him back saying I thought the contract said the ticket would be provided before I got there. I hope this is ok. I've been so stressed trying to get everything ready, but I don't want to get into a bad situation if I can avoid it. I hope it's just a simple misunderstanding and it turns out ok.


Simple.... e-mail him after he replies back to you with his excuses and give a short answer...

"I have no money for a ticket. No ticket = no teacher. Sorry. I guess I have to find another school who can get me a ticket."

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
ESLJenna



Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might try that, thank you. I will let you know what happens. Thank you for your advice, I will come back later and ask ya'll for more input if there's any problems.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
iggyb



Joined: 29 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem, I think, is he put the paperwork into immigration already.

I remember back in 2009 when SMOE dropped about 100 of us at the last minute, those who had already been issued visas had issues with immigration when it came to finding another job. I'm not sure how that worked out, because I wasn't one of them.

The hakwon should have enough money to pay for the ticket. If they refuse to do it, I'd have to worry they have cash flow problems - which is a huge warning sign.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ESLJenna



Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to be sure

"....will provide one-way trip air ticket to Korea before the beginning of contract "

Just to make absolutely certain, before he contacts me regarding my concerns, that means they will provide the ticket, right? The contract said the school will do that, it's exactly from the contract that was sent to me. I will absolutely stick to my guns on this, I just need to make sure there's no way for this to be interpreted any other way. Sorry to sound paranoid, just trying to be as prepared as possible.

Thanks
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESLJenna wrote:
Just to be sure

"....will provide one-way trip air ticket to Korea before the beginning of contract "

Just to make absolutely certain, before he contacts me regarding my concerns, that means they will provide the ticket, right? The contract said the school will do that, it's exactly from the contract that was sent to me. I will absolutely stick to my guns on this, I just need to make sure there's no way for this to be interpreted any other way. Sorry to sound paranoid, just trying to be as prepared as possible.

Thanks


That kind of thinking will get you fired before your first payday.
This isn't the States. It is not a stick to your guns thing.

It is a "make it happen without anyone losing face" thing.

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
ESLJenna



Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aah, ok. So could I say,

I'm sorry, I was under the impression the flight was prepaid, because of the contract. I am not able to pay for a ticket there, the reason I accepted the position was because of the prepaid, one way air fare to Korea.

I wasn't going to throw down, but I am not paying for a ticket either. How would you suggest I word it then, since you know these things? I would like to just smooth it over and carry on with the job, if possible.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That line of thinking will probably get you a ticket.

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
ESLJenna



Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, that's what I needed, just to know how to go about it appropriately. I don't want to make enemies, especially before I've even stpped off the plane!

so if I showed you this
"The institute will provide the teacher with private furnished living accommodations and will provide one-way trip air ticket to Korea before the beginning of contract and return-ticket at the end of one-year contract. The teacher is responsible for the monthly the telephone charges and all utilities (internet, electricity, water, gas, phone ..). "

You would believe that means the ticket was provided for before I arrived in the country, by the institute right? Just making sure. So let people save face, but stand up for myself in a non-confrontational way? I really mean what I say here, I took the position in large part because of the prepaid flight. It's a huge thing to me, so I need to navigate this smoothly and quickly, without offending anyone and all the stuff before I've even arrived.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International