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Keeper
Joined: 11 Jun 2012
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I think it's a bad idea to come looking for a job here. Do you know Korea? Do you have experience teaching here? If yes, then go for it. But you obviously don't so why chance it? The market is tight here. You won't stand much of a chance if you come.
As for people who worked here 10 years ago advising you on this question forget it. They can't advise you on what to do in today's job market. I also wonder if they even know what an apostille is...seriously someone needs to keep their well-intentioned posts in check. They are not being helpful when they give bad advice. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Please, for the love of God, don't make a big decision based on what you heard a friend of friend did from some anonymous poster on a forum. Call the god damn consulate and confirm. |
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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Public school jobs are downsizing. And that is why you are telling people not to consider coming to Korea -- that is why you are telling people public schools are unsafe?
Well, you should spell that out next time, because it looks like just another blanket condemnation by you that doesn't match reality.
Public school programs are still hiring people, and if someone gets one of those jobs, they can rest assured their contract will be honored and they will avoid the vast majority of headaches the worst hakwons put some people through.
Few expat ESLers remain in Korea for more than a couple of years. They aren't looking for long-term jobs they expect to keep for 5, 10, or more years.
So it is a big stretch to start telling newbies interested in Korea they should avoid it like the plague because public school jobs are unsafe based on the downsizing that happened this year.
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| They got axed with no warning and were sent packing back home. It took some of them months to get back. |
Who were those people? The downsizing in public schools had been rumored and talked about for many months before it happened. It made the Korean press a few times. It was talked about here and at waygook.org a good bit.
People's contracts were honored. They got their last pay, severance, airfare and pension refund (if they were eligible). That's a good chunk of change. Not quiet the hakwon horry story which sometimes does happen to people.
With the D-10 visa, they could have remained in Korea and searched for a job.
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| As for people who worked here 10 years ago advising you on this question forget it. |
Did you miss the part where I said I just got back from Korea in March?
Instead of cheap dismissals, how about pointing out where my advice is sending people down the wrong road - if you're point is to be helpful... |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| Keeper wrote: |
As for people who worked here 10 years ago advising you on this question forget it. They can't advise you on what to do in today's job market. I also wonder if they even know what an apostille is...seriously someone needs to keep their well-intentioned posts in check. They are not being helpful when they give bad advice. |
Exactly. Exactly. The Korea esl market has died a death.
Anyone saying that there are "loads of jobs" is a lunatic. Or a blonde 20 yr old american supermodel. |
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Keeper
Joined: 11 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| iggyb wrote: |
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| As for people who worked here 10 years ago advising you on this question forget it. |
Did you miss the part where I said I just got back from Korea in March?
Instead of cheap dismissals, how about pointing out where my advice is sending people down the wrong road - if you're point is to be helpful... |
I wrote that. So you are mixing up the posts/posters. I stand by everything I wrote.
Telling someone who has never been to Korea to come without a work visa is not being helpful. It's not your money he's going to be risking so what do you care right?
You just got back from Korea in March? What is that supposed to mean? Yes I did miss it because you did not mention anything about it in this thread. I have a straight up question for you. Who do you know who has never worked in Korea or taught that has come over here without a work visa and found work? When was this?
Best advice is to keep searching while in the states. If you can't find a job while there you very likely won't be finding one while in Korea. They will hire someone with experience over you any day of the week whether you are inside or outside the country. The best advice in this thread is ttompatz's. China is your best option right now, IF you can't find work while outside the country.
Questions for the OP: How long have you been looking? How many recruiters? Do you have your paperwork ready at this time? Are you willing to work anywhere in Korea or have you restricted your search? |
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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Since I advised the guy not to come over without a job and said exactly opposite of what you noted, I'll skip the rest.
You jumped on VD's bandwagon too quickly. |
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Emark
Joined: 10 May 2007
Location: duh, Korea?
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| VD gave you some good advice about coming to China. |
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Oh, you mean V as in vicious and D as in dinosaur.
I wonder how VD likes his (her?) initials?
Back to the original thought, ...
A case of the scratchies could be a good reason to flee to China I suppose. |
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