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edwardcatflap
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| I'd say about as many countries take cricket seriously as do rugby |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Although I support the idea of scrapping indoor airconditioned air pistol in favor of "Summer Biathlon" I'll give a defense of the sport.
1)It's not as easy as it looks. 12ax7 mentioned that he did it with a rifle. This is with a pistol. With one hand. Unsupported from a standing position.
2)You don't just shoot 5 rounds. You shoot 40-60. Over a period of possibly an hour. That is somewhat fatiguing.
3)Reflexes are nerve steadiness are part of athleticism. Just as certain track & field events focus on very narrow skills, so does this.
4)The argument that kids can do it doesn't seem to rear its head when it comes to gymnastics.
But yeah, jazz it up. Watching the world's best do a triathlon + carrying a rifle at the same time and having to shoot would certainly be entertaining. |
1) They have both at the Olympics (have a 10 m event with the rifle...10m, for crying out loud!). Have you seen the rifles they use? Obviously not.
2) 5x8 or 12 (can't remember how many times they had me shoot at that target before they realized what was really going on). I clearly recall changing the magazine once, so it's anywhere between 35 to 70 rounds.
3) It's easy to me. I guess I'm an athlete, then.
4) I'm not talking about gymnastics, am I? Besides, that's child abuse. Different story.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/sport/archives/2012/07/27/2003538748 |
10m? With a rifle? Crap, what a joke.
If its that easy, go and try and qualify. You could get Olympic Gold! I say this sincerely. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Although I support the idea of scrapping indoor airconditioned air pistol in favor of "Summer Biathlon" I'll give a defense of the sport.
1)It's not as easy as it looks. 12ax7 mentioned that he did it with a rifle. This is with a pistol. With one hand. Unsupported from a standing position.
2)You don't just shoot 5 rounds. You shoot 40-60. Over a period of possibly an hour. That is somewhat fatiguing.
3)Reflexes are nerve steadiness are part of athleticism. Just as certain track & field events focus on very narrow skills, so does this.
4)The argument that kids can do it doesn't seem to rear its head when it comes to gymnastics.
But yeah, jazz it up. Watching the world's best do a triathlon + carrying a rifle at the same time and having to shoot would certainly be entertaining. |
1) They have both at the Olympics (have a 10 m event with the rifle...10m, for crying out loud!). Have you seen the rifles they use? Obviously not.
2) 5x8 or 12 (can't remember how many times they had me shoot at that target before they realized what was really going on). I clearly recall changing the magazine once, so it's anywhere between 35 to 70 rounds.
3) It's easy to me. I guess I'm an athlete, then.
4) I'm not talking about gymnastics, am I? Besides, that's child abuse. Different story.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/sport/archives/2012/07/27/2003538748 |
10m? With a rifle? Crap, what a joke.
If its that easy, go and try and qualify. You could get Olympic Gold! I say this sincerely. |
I also think I could do quite well if I picked it up (don't know about Olympic gold, but I'd win a few competitions). But, considering the costs vs. the benefits...The cost of the rifles (I'm sure those fancy rifles cost in the thousands), the cost of traveling to competitions (thousands more), the time off I'd have to take from work to travel to those competitions (I'd probably lose my job). Then having to fly to my home country to compete in qualifiers. Maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think people who compete in that event are earning a lot of money in sponsorship.
So, with that said, it's just not worth it to me. Sure, if I had deep pockets like Geena Davis, who basically picked up archery in order to train for the qualifiers (and nearly made the US team, too), maybe...
But, I'd rather spend time with my family and invest my money. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:33 am Post subject: |
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I would consider accuracy to be an Olympic worthy skill thus shooting/archery etc have a place.
I think it was a good thing to remove baseball as there are not enough nations that care about it at a decent standard for it to be anything more than a fight between USA, Japan and Korea (and more 2 other countries).
Basketball on the other hand is much more global and thus has a place so long as no silly under 23 rules are put in. That is my issue with Olympic football, it should either be totally pro or removed in my opinion.
For me a sport can justify an Olympic spot if the following criteria can be matched:
a) There is a specific and clear skill required, be that speed/strength/accuracy/fighting skills etc.
b) There is a global competitiveness to the sport, (one nation domination is fine [eg: China and Tabletennis] but not a sport that only 5 or 6 nations take seriously like Baseball, American Football, Cricket or Darts)
c) It can easily be played in any nation around the world and the events can be completed within a fortnight.
d) Both the male and female incarnations of the sport can attract an audience (my issue with Synchro Swimming and Rhythmic Gymnastics)
Personally I feel that almost every sport currently in the Olympic programme has a place (anything can be reduced to a kiddie game style description if one wishes to),
the sports I would like to see added are:
Squash (maybe coming to Rio)
Rugby (Will be in Rio)
Cue Sports
Carting/Rallying (With a single car supplier for all drivers) |
I think pretty much all team ball sports should be out of the Olympics. Most of them have their own world championships.
No basketball.
No hockey.
No handball.
No waterpolo.
No rugby.
No cricket.
NO FOOTBALL. (and I love football).
No volleyball.
No beach volleyball.
Other sports that I'd ditch:
Tennis (they have their own, more important tournaments)
Walking (stupidest "sport" in the history of the world)
Equestrian (unless the horses get the medals)
I have no problem with the shooting, except that there seems to be far too many categories. Simplify. Choose one, or maybe two events and only get the best of the best of the best competing in them. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Equestrian (unless the horses get the medals)
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I wouldn't go that far.
I ride about once a month. Trust me, English style riding is one hell of a workout.
Besides, riders don't normally take all the credit for themselves. You don't get to be a good rider if you don't build a good relationship with your horse, and therefore think of it as your teammate.
"If he is willing, I am willing."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19128944 |
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