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jeremydc808
Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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| Good to know. We are in same boat. Keep us updated. Even though I don't have teaching experience, I do have a few years working with children specifically so hopefully it helps bit even though chances are it won't. Wishful thinking. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| This is what a recruiter told me recently (since you don't have any teaching experience either) - If you don't have any professional teaching experience, you will have to teach at a private school for a year. Once you have one year of teaching experience, then you can apply to EPIK. She said EPIK was not accepting a Level 3. However, another recruiter said I can apply to EPIK. I have two bachelor's degrees and I'm working on my TEFL. Anyway, I would recommend teaching at a public school first. |
I think if you have the TEFL cert, that'll bump you out of Level 3, even without the one year experience. But I'd check the salary scale. But you are right about them not hiring Level 3 anymore. |
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AsianLatinaGirl
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:41 am Post subject: |
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@isitts The recruiter told me that I would still be a Level 3 with my degrees and TEFL.
@jeremydc808 I have teaching experience but it's not professional. I'm a Spanish tutor and do ministry work. I also use to work with abused/neglected children before transferring to another department. |
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jeremydc808
Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Awesome! That's good to hear.
As far as the Epik situation goes, I hope I did not waste $$ on this course TT I am taking! |
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AsianLatinaGirl
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| @jeremydc808 I hope I didn't waste my money either. I don't want to teach at a hagwon. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Public school positives:
a) classes after lunch could = overtime
b) vacation time
c) school dinners w/ free drinks
d) greater degree of control over your syllabus
Public school negatives:
a) isolated native English speaker
b) mixed levels of kids in same class
c) housing security deposit
d) domineering co-teacher
e) no training
f) deskwarming (surprised no one mentioned this gem)
OP: Public schools and hagwons alike can cheat you. Not as common with public schools, but it may happen. Personally, I couldn't imagine why anyone with a full-time government job would drop it for a roll of the dice, but that's me. Good luck... |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| AsianLatinaGirl wrote: |
| @jeremydc808 I hope I didn't waste my money either. I don't want to teach at a hagwon. |
Why not Hakwons? Just curious. |
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jeremydc808
Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
Public school positives:
a) classes after lunch could = overtime
b) vacation time
c) school dinners w/ free drinks
d) greater degree of control over your syllabus
Public school negatives:
a) isolated native English speaker
b) mixed levels of kids in same class
c) housing security deposit
d) domineering co-teacher
e) no training
f) deskwarming (surprised no one mentioned this gem)
OP: Public schools and hagwons alike can cheat you. Not as common with public schools, but it may happen. Personally, I couldn't imagine why anyone with a full-time government job would drop it for a roll of the dice, but that's me. Good luck... |
Thanks for the pros and cons.
As far as the government job goes........ I understand the confusion because of the job market BUT a year in Korea won't be the end all if I decide to come back (which I don't honestly). |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| AsianLatinaGirl wrote: |
| @isitts The recruiter told me that I would still be a Level 3 with my degrees and TEFL. |
Um...no you wouldn't.
http://www.gone2korea.com/public-school-korea/epik/salaries.html
For Level 2...
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a) 100+ hour TEFL / TESOL / CELTA certificate plus a Bachelor�s degree in any discipline
b) OR Bachelor's degree in Education, English Literature, Linguistics, or Writing (e.g. creative writing, critical writing)
c) OR One full year of full-time teaching experience plus a Bachelor's degree in any discipline
d) OR, Master's degree in any discipline & a Bachelor�s degree in any discipline
e) OR, Valid Teacher�s License plus a Bachelor�s degree in any discipline |
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cheezsteakwit
Joined: 12 Oct 2011
Location: There & back again.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:21 am Post subject: PS Job ? |
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| AsianLatinaGirl wrote: |
| This is what a recruiter told me recently (since you don't have any teaching experience either) - If you don't have any professional teaching experience, you will have to teach at a private school for a year. Once you have one year of teaching experience, then you can apply to EPIK. She said EPIK was not accepting a Level 3. However, another recruiter said I can apply to EPIK. I have two bachelor's degrees and I'm working on my TEFL. Anyway, I would recommend teaching at a public school first. |
Took me a while to read thru pages of vitriol from the 'usual suspects', but i generally agree with iggyb's posts here.
I just want to respond to that line about you "will have to teach at a private school" for a year if you have no professional experience.
That's nonsense. I was recruited for a PS school back in Feb. and in my orientation class of about 50-60+ people, I may have been one of the only certified teachers. EPIK is NOT the ONLY way to get a PS job !
Contact Alistair at Korean Horizons - he recruits for NON-EPIK PS jobs & he's very helpful.
I've been here 6 months & am very happy. I've been to China for Summer break & Thailand will be my Winter vacation spot. The vacation time at a PS is a big selling point.
The free time during the day is great as well. You just need to use your time productively to further your skills. Not worrying about your next paycheck is a plus as well.
As for hagwons ? I don't know much about them & I don't WANT to know about them. I wouldn't change a thing so far. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| jeremydc808 wrote: |
Thanks for the pros and cons.
As far as the government job goes........ I understand the confusion because of the job market BUT a year in Korea won't be the end all if I decide to come back (which I don't honestly). |
My pleasure.
If you are unhappy with your job, that is perfectly normal and that is the main reason why I ended up in Korea. Don't assume that the job will be there for you when you feel like returning... |
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AsianLatinaGirl
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:29 am Post subject: |
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@PatrickGHBusan I've read too many bad things about them.
@isitts and @cheezsteakwit Thank you. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| AsianLatinaGirl wrote: |
@PatrickGHBusan I've read too many bad things about them.
@isitts and @cheezsteakwit Thank you. |
Well then you may be selling yourself short asianlatinagirl. What you read may not be representative of the reality, especially if you have never worked as a teacher or worked as a teacher in Korea!
PS have advantages but so do Hakwons.... |
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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| I agree. PS still end up the better choice, but hakwons are better in some ways - primarily in how much control over the class and material you have and how this makes it more like teaching. Some get that in PSs - maybe especially in high school and less so in elementary school - but hakwons generally throw you in to sink or swim. You have the ability to experiment and sink or swim... |
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jeremydc808
Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| PS seems to be the logical choice for a "newbie." With experience comes confidence. |
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