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Unposter
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While I agree that telling the police will at least help them know where the problems areas are (though I would probably assume crowded subways stations are prime areas) and that one not need tell friends and family, I disagree about the sense of losing face.
Maybe, it is just a modern change, but I don't think many young women have any problem yelling at someone for touching them. At least, I know my wife (Korean) doesn't. Young women may not want to bring attention to themselves because they are shy or confused but I don't think they are worried about losing face nor would this be a loss of face to them if they did yell.
My advice would be to exactly do that. If someone is innappropriately touching you, you should yell at them to stop. I'll guarantee the person will get as far away from you as possible.
I think we should becareful abot propigating a stereotype of saying something directly is a bad thing, as well. |
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wishfullthinkng
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| What's mostly happening to my wife is on the bus, and there's no subtlety about it: the man next to her puts his hand on my wife's leg and starts rubbing her. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Without reading prior posts, why doesn't she keep her camera ready to film the offence and then pan up to the guy's face? |
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PatrickGHBusan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| Without reading prior posts, why doesn't she keep her camera ready to film the offence and then pan up to the guy's face? |
How would that be feasible on a super crowded subway? |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
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| Without reading prior posts, why doesn't she keep her camera ready to film the offence and then pan up to the guy's face? |
How would that be feasible on a super crowded subway? |
How would it be impossible? No one said anything about it being a 'super-crowded' subway anyway. |
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TL
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| cdninkorea wrote: |
| What's mostly happening to my wife is on the bus, and there's no subtlety about it: the man next to her puts his hand on my wife's leg and starts rubbing her. |
Wow, that is just so blatant! Poor woman. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| Without reading prior posts, why doesn't she keep her camera ready to film the offence and then pan up to the guy's face? |
How would that be feasible on a super crowded subway? |
How would it be impossible? No one said anything about it being a 'super-crowded' subway anyway. |
Well these things typically (in my wife's experience anyway) happen on crowded subways because it gives the stipud perv "cover". Also if you start filming people, it might cause more problems than anything else.
Crap, if a guy starts molesting a woman in an empty subway car or bus, she will shout him down and its clear its him. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| Without reading prior posts, why doesn't she keep her camera ready to film the offence and then pan up to the guy's face? |
How would that be feasible on a super crowded subway? |
How would it be impossible? No one said anything about it being a 'super-crowded' subway anyway. |
Well these things typically (in my wife's experience anyway) happen on crowded subways because it gives the stipud perv "cover". Also if you start filming people, it might cause more problems than anything else.
Crap, if a guy starts molesting a woman in an empty subway car or bus, she will shout him down and its clear its him. |
It's amazing, the things you think you know, about situations you have never been in, or witnessed. There are a bunch of videos such as these submitted to a segment in a news magazine I watch every Monday morning. Crowded, not crowded, standing, sitting, it makes no difference to the offender. |
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fermentation
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Crap, if a guy starts molesting a woman in an empty subway car or bus, she will shout him down and its clear its him. |
A woman shouting at her molestor with nobody else around doesn't sound like the best of ideas. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| cdninkorea wrote: |
| What's mostly happening to my wife is on the bus, and there's no subtlety about it: the man next to her puts his hand on my wife's leg and starts rubbing her. |
I think she's doing it right then - calling the person out. It'd be hard as heck to film in that situation... especially your own leg... while the bus rocks back and forth.
Sorry to hear about this happening to her.
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As an aside, I don't believe it's ever happened to my wife.
Hmmm... maybe that's telling of something O.o |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| Without reading prior posts, why doesn't she keep her camera ready to film the offence and then pan up to the guy's face? |
How would that be feasible on a super crowded subway? |
How would it be impossible? No one said anything about it being a 'super-crowded' subway anyway. |
Well these things typically (in my wife's experience anyway) happen on crowded subways because it gives the stipud perv "cover". Also if you start filming people, it might cause more problems than anything else.
Crap, if a guy starts molesting a woman in an empty subway car or bus, she will shout him down and its clear its him. |
It's amazing, the things you think you know, about situations you have never been in, or witnessed. There are a bunch of videos such as these submitted to a segment in a news magazine I watch every Monday morning. Crowded, not crowded, standing, sitting, it makes no difference to the offender. |
Crowded does make a difference because it provides cover for the damn pervert. The woman then is hard pressed to know who did it. My wife experienced this and actually felt pretty powerless. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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http://news1.kr/articles/802660
Think this fits here. Among 81860 sex crimes commited in the past 5 years, the perps of 9189 of those have not been caught. That's around 11%.
I want to say this is more fear mongering, but if I were a woman, I'd be worried. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| Without reading prior posts, why doesn't she keep her camera ready to film the offence and then pan up to the guy's face? |
How would that be feasible on a super crowded subway? |
How would it be impossible? No one said anything about it being a 'super-crowded' subway anyway. |
Well these things typically (in my wife's experience anyway) happen on crowded subways because it gives the stipud perv "cover". Also if you start filming people, it might cause more problems than anything else.
Crap, if a guy starts molesting a woman in an empty subway car or bus, she will shout him down and its clear its him. |
It's amazing, the things you think you know, about situations you have never been in, or witnessed. There are a bunch of videos such as these submitted to a segment in a news magazine I watch every Monday morning. Crowded, not crowded, standing, sitting, it makes no difference to the offender. |
Crowded does make a difference because it provides cover for the damn pervert. The woman then is hard pressed to know who did it. My wife experienced this and actually felt pretty powerless. |
So, you must have missed those high profile youtube videos of guys feeling up women in plain view on the subway in Seoul? The point is, videos can be made, crowded or not. But by all means, keep telling me how powerless your wife felt 5-? years ago at a time when cellphone camera tech was the way it was . |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| fermentation wrote: |
| Among 81860 sex crimes commited in the past 5 years, the perps of 9189 of those have not been caught. That's around 11%. |
Instead they became taxi drivers.
Korea...the land where nothing is ever done to punish bad behaviour. |
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