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Seoulman69
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 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: I need your accent |
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I am doing my dissertation on Korean attitudes towards different varieties of English. I was helped by the Filipino embassy and now have a recording of a Filipino accent. I am now looking for people with accents from the 7 countries that are hired as native teachers in Korea.
I will provide you with a paragraph that takes aprox 30 second to read. You can record it using your phone from the comfort of your own home and send it to me via email.
For consistency reasons it would need to be a male voice between 25-50 years old. Sorry ladies.
If you are willing to help, please send me a PM and I will send you the paragraph and my email details.
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Dodge7
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rchristo10
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What is your definition of an accent?  |
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Seoulman69
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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The warm feeling in your heart from knowing that you've helped someone.
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I'm looking for accents that are a fairly standard representation of the country they are from. |
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Otherside
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'm looking for accents that are a fairly standard representation of the country they are from. |
What is fairly representative? A Boston accent. An accent from the Deep South? How about California? What about the UK? London, Manchester, Yorkshire or Scotland, or Queen's English required? South African, more than half of those guys here don't even speak English as their first language, so you'll get a mixed bag from that lot too. |
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rchristo10
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| What is your definition of an accent? |
I'm looking for accents that are a fairly standard representation of the country they are from. |
What is fairly representative? A Boston accent. An accent from the Deep South? How about California? What about the UK? London, Manchester, Yorkshire or Scotland, or Queen's English required? South African, more than half of those guys here don't even speak English as their first language, so you'll get a mixed bag from that lot too. |
My point exactly. Thanks Otherside! I thought the OP could read between the lines... 
re: OP--What is your definition of an accent?  |
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Seoulman69
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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My point exactly. Thanks Otherside! I thought the OP could read between the lines... Laughing
re: OP--What is your definition of an accent? |
an accent is a manner of pronunciation peculiar to a particular individual, location, or nation. (thanks wiki).
I am looking for people with an accent that represents the general pronunciation of the country they are from. I am aware that each area of a country has their own unique dialect. If you are from America then I would be looking for as close to General American as possible. Each country has an accent that is considered the "standard". It is usually the accent newsreaders have. I am looking for people as close to that as possible.
The UK accents needed are Irish, and English.
It seems this conversation could go on indefinitely and in the end you are either willing to help me or not. If so please send me a PM and I will send you the details.
Some people have messaged me and offered their help, thanks to those people. I am still looking for English, Kiwi, Australian, and Irish.
Thanks. |
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deizio
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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The UK accents needed are Irish
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Hmm.. |
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rchristo10
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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an accent is a manner of pronunciation peculiar to a [b]particular individual, location, or nation.[b] (thanks wiki).
I am looking for people with an accent that represents the general pronunciation of the country they are from. |
It would be prudent to use logic when connecting your sources (wiki ) and the objectives of your study.
An accent peculiar to a "particular individual, location, or nation" are not necessarily mutually exclusive. So, it's pretty difficult to get what you mean by an accent used in a nation. Well, I mean, if it was the 1970s, when such studies had "promise," I could understand. But are you seriously looking for countries' English accents and calling their pronunciation of English a national accent (...with a straight face)? 
Are you limiting the scope to post-colonized countries where English is spoken? Wow, what an interesting research idea. I can't begin to even understand what you're attempting to do by cataloguing language pronunciations and calling them national accents.
Are you going to split them between the colonisers v. colonised? Or are you going to extend it to looking at mouth structure and argue that certain sounds "can't" be made by certain native speakers of certain languages?
Anyways, if you could write even a small paper on Korean's pronunciation/ accent in English, I'd be really interested. Considering that most of the natives are learning English outside of the country or by people who are natives of other countries, your data pool would end up being mad skewed to say the least. The same would go for people from the Philippines, Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Macau, Thailand...and the like.
What exactly do YOU (not Wiki) mean by accent?
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Seoulman69
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| An accent peculiar to a "particular individual, location, or nation" are not necessarily mutually exclusive. So, it's pretty difficult to get what you mean by an accent used in a nation. Well, I mean, if it was the 1970s, when such studies had "promise," I could understand. But are you seriously looking for countries' English accents and calling their pronunciation of English a national accent (...with a straight face)? |
I'm not sure if you are trolling or just a douche. The accents will be a representative of that country. Obviously no country has one accent that applies to all of its inhabitants. However, there is usually an accent that is considered a "standard" for each country.
I will no longer reply to your posts because it's becoming a waste of time.
If anyone wants to help then please send me a PM. |
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rchristo10
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if you are trolling or just a douche. |
Again, not everything is mutually exclusive; but hey, I could also just be helping you.
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The accents will be a representative of that country. Obviously no country has one accent that applies to all of its inhabitants. However, there is usually an accent that is considered a "standard" for each country. |
There's a "standard" accent for each country (I'm assuming you mean in English). Now, that would be an interesting read too. As if, "standards" are not political in nature. Reminds me of how China insists that Beijing dialect is the "correct" pronunciation of the language, even though the majority of their populations speak with different "accents" [disclaimer: used this word incorrectly on purpose...their actually dialects...but well...since "accents" and its meaning is superfluous to you, shouldn't matter]. Or how urban black pronunciations of certain words are considered "incorrect" in the US. Or perhaps how some people think that a person's pronunciation or "accent" has nothing to do with the politics of the time that forced his or her parents to insist on a particular pronunciation.
National accent...now that's an interesting idea.
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I will no longer reply to your posts because it's becoming a waste of time. |
You should be open to getting as much as possible from your sources (if you're honestly doing *real* research), rather than dismissing their ideas as a "waste of time."
What do you mean by "accent?"  |
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sigmundsmith
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I don't mean to be pedantic here but what do you mean by "country standard English"? Because in my belief (and many academics) there is no such thing as 'standard English', whether you are talking about national or international English.
I know that the OP had to answer questions the people were posting but if you are writing a thesis/dissertation you may need to clarify this in your paper.
For example, most students/mothers in Korea prefer an American accent. However, they are led to believe that the American accent is of the Californian/Hollywood form. One of my past students is now on an exchange program in St Louis. She sent me an email saying that she couldn't understand her professors/fellow students. She also commented on the diversity in accents of students, not just American but from international students studying there.
I am explaining this in detail as one of my classmates in our masters program wrote their paper on English accents and their advisor did stipulate that the idea of standardized English is a myth. Good luck! |
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Seoulman69
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I am explaining this in detail as one of my classmates in our masters program wrote their paper on English accents and their advisor did stipulate that the idea of standardized English is a myth. Good luck! |
You're right there is no "standard English" but this isn't the point I'm making.
I am saying that there are sometimes standard accents for each country. Received pronunciation and general American are two well known examples.
I've explained that in the previous post. |
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tiger fancini
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| I'm from England, but I don't know if my accent is 'standard' for the whole country. I'm familiar with 'standard' accents of each city/region, but not really sure if any of these are considered the 'standard' for the country as a whole. I'd be interested in helping you out (especially if there is some ca$h incentive!) but it's not really clear what you are asking for. |
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12ax7
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I wouldn't have picked that topic. You might end up needing to produce a comparative analysis of each accent since that's really what your investigating: distinct accents, not standard ones. That in itself is a dissertation.
PS. As for whether an accent is standard or not...Even those who speak a certain dialect can't accurately define what consists a more standard form of its accent. Case in point: Canadian reporters are frequently hired as news anchors in the US because they supposedly speak with a more standard American accent.
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