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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| b-class rambler wrote: |
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For what it is worth, I would like to just say:
Most "modern" nations allow dual citizenship. Korea was one of the few who didn't until this year |
A lot of ESLers and other expats in Korea clearly think this is the case, assuming that it's the norm for dual citizenship to be allowed, perhaps because their own country allows it.
But it's actually a very inaccurate assumption. Whilst there are about 100 countries that do allow it, roughly the same number do not, many of them definitely falling within the description of a "modern country".
Japan doesn't for a start. Their rules are what used to be the case in Korea - kids born to a Japanese parent and other nationality parent can have both only until they become an adult, after which they must choose one only.
Others that don't allow it include Austria, Denmark, Norway, India, Malaysia, Poland, Indonesia amongst others. There are also several other European countries that allow it, but only in very restricted circumstances.
The countries most of us on this forum come from are either completely or largely immigrant nations and as result have fairly generous laws on dual citizenship. But it's a mistake to assume that's the norm around the world. |
Odd, considering my cousin has dual US-Norwegian citizenship. |
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b-class rambler
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| b-class rambler wrote: |
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For what it is worth, I would like to just say:
Most "modern" nations allow dual citizenship. Korea was one of the few who didn't until this year |
A lot of ESLers and other expats in Korea clearly think this is the case, assuming that it's the norm for dual citizenship to be allowed, perhaps because their own country allows it.
But it's actually a very inaccurate assumption. Whilst there are about 100 countries that do allow it, roughly the same number do not, many of them definitely falling within the description of a "modern country".
Japan doesn't for a start. Their rules are what used to be the case in Korea - kids born to a Japanese parent and other nationality parent can have both only until they become an adult, after which they must choose one only.
Others that don't allow it include Austria, Denmark, Norway, India, Malaysia, Poland, Indonesia amongst others. There are also several other European countries that allow it, but only in very restricted circumstances.
The countries most of us on this forum come from are either completely or largely immigrant nations and as result have fairly generous laws on dual citizenship. But it's a mistake to assume that's the norm around the world. |
Odd, considering my cousin has dual US-Norwegian citizenship. |
According to Norwegian government and embassy websites (presumably a reliable source of info), Norway doesn't, in principle, alllow dual nationality and lists as one of its conditions for acquisition of Norwegian citizenship that you must
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They do allow exceptions in a small number of cases, usually when the process of renouncing the other nationality is unreasonably difficult or for reasons of personal security the applicant can't/shouldn't make contact with the authorities in the other country.
So which exception applied to your cousin then? |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Northway,
If you cannot understand what "most" means or the context in which I brought up (its supposed dangerousness) than I don't know what to say to you.
And, your sudden expertness in Norwegian immigration is funny. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry Northway, I should have addressed that to b-class rambler. Though, I still find your expertise on Norwegian immigration funny. |
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b-class rambler
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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If you cannot understand what "most" means or the context in which I brought up (its supposed dangerousness) than I don't know what to say to you.
And, your sudden expertness in Norwegian immigration is funny. |
I wouldn't use 'most' for approximately half. Obviously "modern" is open to widely varying personal interpretation and I accept you could make a fair case for a majority of what some people would call 'modern' countries allowing it. But others would disagree about which ones are modern or not. Semantics aside, I stand by what I said that a lot of folk are unaware (and no great shame in being so) how many countries don't allow it. Maybe you weren't one of them, but I never said that you specifically were.
I never claimed any "expertness in Norwegian immigration", simply re-stated some widely available and easily searchable information. If you disagree with it, feel free to say so. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| it's the same in america. while you are technically "allowed" to be a dual citizen there's a ton of red tape and it's highly frowned up. there are other countries where maybe you have their passport through marriage, naturalization etc., and they don't make your renounce the other nationality, but that doesn't mean you are a dual citizen there. just because you hold seven passports doesn't mean a country will recognize any but their own. |
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