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ethanshin
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 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:14 am Post subject: A questions about diploma |
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Hello,
I have just graduated from university and my diploma is going to be sent to me in November. However, I want to work immediately. I feel that it is a bit silly that I have to wait 2 months for a piece of paper when a confirmation of my graduation from my university should be enough.
But, a recruiter just told me that the Ministry of Education will not accept a written confirmation that I have graduated from my university, and they will only accept a diploma.
Is this true? Is there a way I can get around it?
Or, do I really have to wait until November?
Help would be appreciated. Thanks! |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| It's true. There is no way around it. You must wait if you wish to work in Korea. |
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ethanshin
Joined: 28 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| How about for F-4 visa teachers? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| How about for F-4 visa teachers? |
If you can get an F4 (Korean ancestry) rather than an E2 (language teacher) then the MOE wants the copy of your parchment (with apostille affixed) instead of immigration but the document is still required.
The same is true of the CBC.
If you can get the paperwork in November then you may find your way over here in December.
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ethanshin
Joined: 28 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:27 am Post subject: |
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That just does not make sense. I have a degree and why do I have to wait for 2 months for a piece of paper that confirms it when my university can confirm it for the immigration.
Quite frankly my university's personal confirmation is probably more trustworthy than a piece of paper that anyone can forge. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:38 am Post subject: |
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You are asking the wrong question. You should ask why your university takes two friggin months to give you your diploma. We are the backwards ones. We are the culture that says it's okay to be lazy and wait to hand out diplomas.
In Korea the diploma is a simple document that's easy to get. You can order it any time for $10. Same with their criminal record check. These things are just standard documents in Korea that are a cinch to get. It's our culture of slowtacracy that is the problem. Not Korea's failure to understand why other countries are so 18th century.
Dude, do you really want to miss convocation? It's a blast. And it's only once in your life. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
You are asking the wrong question. You should ask why your university takes two friggin months to give you your diploma. We are the backwards ones. We are the culture that says it's okay to be lazy and wait to hand out diplomas.
In Korea the diploma is a simple document that's easy to get. You can order it any time for $10. Same with their criminal record check. These things are just standard documents in Korea that are a cinch to get. It's our culture of slowtacracy that is the problem. Not Korea's failure to understand why other countries are so 18th century.
Dude, do you really want to miss convocation? It's a blast. And it's only once in your life. |
Good points in this post. |
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ethanshin
Joined: 28 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
You are asking the wrong question. You should ask why your university takes two friggin months to give you your diploma. We are the backwards ones. We are the culture that says it's okay to be lazy and wait to hand out diplomas.
In Korea the diploma is a simple document that's easy to get. You can order it any time for $10. Same with their criminal record check. These things are just standard documents in Korea that are a cinch to get. It's our culture of slowtacracy that is the problem. Not Korea's failure to understand why other countries are so 18th century.
Dude, do you really want to miss convocation? It's a blast. And it's only once in your life. |
I completely agree with you. It's pretty ridiculous that it takes almost 2 years for someone in Ontario to get a full license. It's something unheard of in other countries.
However, I called the Korean embassy in Toronto and talked to multiple people, including visa officer, consular seal officer and the education centre, and THEY ALL SAID THAT:
"if you already have a f-4 visa, then it really doesn't matter. If your employer is willing to accept a letter from the university, then that's ok. It is up to the employer." |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| ethanshin wrote: |
| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
You are asking the wrong question. You should ask why your university takes two friggin months to give you your diploma. We are the backwards ones. We are the culture that says it's okay to be lazy and wait to hand out diplomas.
In Korea the diploma is a simple document that's easy to get. You can order it any time for $10. Same with their criminal record check. These things are just standard documents in Korea that are a cinch to get. It's our culture of slowtacracy that is the problem. Not Korea's failure to understand why other countries are so 18th century.
Dude, do you really want to miss convocation? It's a blast. And it's only once in your life. |
I completely agree with you. It's pretty ridiculous that it takes almost 2 years for someone in Ontario to get a full license. It's something unheard of in other countries.
However, I called the Korean embassy in Toronto and talked to multiple people, including visa officer, consular seal officer and the education centre, and THEY ALL SAID THAT:
"if you already have a f-4 visa, then it really doesn't matter. If your employer is willing to accept a letter from the university, then that's ok. It is up to the employer." |
Not only canada - it took me two months to get my Masters. But all things considered why doesn't the FBI extradite CBC's? Also why do the Koreans need the diplomas in the first place? Transcripts are the standard. They are as hard to forge as money. I just think that's silly.
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| ethanshin wrote: |
I completely agree with you. It's pretty ridiculous that it takes almost 2 years for someone in Ontario to get a full license. It's something unheard of in other countries.
However, I called the Korean embassy in Toronto and talked to multiple people, including visa officer, consular seal officer and the education centre, and THEY ALL SAID THAT:
"if you already have a f-4 visa, then it really doesn't matter. If your employer is willing to accept a letter from the university, then that's ok. It is up to the employer." |
For those on an F4 it is NOT an immigration or consular issue.
The law changed in 2011 and came effective at the end of Feb. 2012 that ALL teachers (regardless of nationality, citizenship or visa status) had to submit a certified copy of their degree, national police check and medical for the Ministry of Education.
Immigration and the consulate is only concerned about documentation for E2s. The MOE will be your pain in the butt.
Get used to it. This isn't T-dot.
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