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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 4:46 am    Post subject: discipline Reply with quote

As in all things physical discipline depends totally on the circumstances in which it is used.

I have several classroom techniques that I use to manage my classroom without resorting to physical contact.

Warnings...do you want teacher to be angry?
teacher is getting angry!
My students know that if I tell them to be quiet and they do not listen they will be facing any one of several disciplines....expulsion...they cant come back until mom or dad comes to talk to me(extreme cases only used once), chair over head (of course I tell them exactly what will cause a chair to be held over head...no book...no pencil.pen etc...I keep track and they all know it.)

I had a couple of students plug their noses when I came into class and make stinky teacher motions....a quick slap upside the head quickly put an end to this behaviour. Interesting to note the two students that did this became two of my best students, eager to learn and please....the previous teacher who never disciplined hated them..


Discipline depends on many things...the teacher...the students...the infraction...I do things here I could never get away with in Canada but I never strike them with a closed fist...I am always smiling when I do any physical punishment and I always make sure it will not physically damage the student.

it has its time and place but like all things it can be abused
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peemil wrote:
You know... Corporal punishment is something that you'd never use in the west. But here. It seems like the only thing that they respond to.

Wrong. Still used in Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, and a few other states. I have seem "permission to paddle" forms signed by parents in cumulative folders.

U.S. Students Still Getting the Paddle -- Corporal Punishment Laws Often Reflect Regional Chasms
By Michael Dobbs, Washington Post Staff Writer
Washington Post , February 21, 2004
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http://www.nospank.net/n-l51r.htm
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: discipline Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
As in all things physical discipline depends totally on the circumstances in which it is used.

I have several classroom techniques that I use to manage my classroom without resorting to physical contact.

Warnings...do you want teacher to be angry?
teacher is getting angry!

Is the point of following directions and "being good" in the classroom supposed to be to keep the teacher from being angry?
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Mankind



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fave is for the sleeping student.

I hold me finger up to my mouth so the stuents are quiet, than sneak over next to the sleeper. I hold my elbow over their head than yell 'wake-up'! Their head jumps up and bangs into my arm. The students love it. The kid just rubs his head once or twice, but nobody sleeps again, and if someone does, othere students point them out. (used on Uni kids).

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ryleeys



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: discipline Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:

Is the point of following directions and "being good" in the classroom supposed to be to keep the teacher from being angry?



Sometimes you have to get them to behave and be polite to adults first, then you can worry about teaching that education is important for its own reasons. Usually, better behavior will result in better grades and then the students will see the benefits of good behavior and getting good grades...
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: discipline Reply with quote

ryleeys wrote:
OiGirl wrote:

Is the point of following directions and "being good" in the classroom supposed to be to keep the teacher from being angry?



Sometimes you have to get them to behave and be polite to adults first, then you can worry about teaching that education is important for its own reasons. Usually, better behavior will result in better grades and then the students will see the benefits of good behavior and getting good grades...

I agree that kids need to behave and be polite to adults. What I have a problem with is using "not getting the teacher angry" as motivation.
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