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[K1020]

Corporal punishment is a quick and temporary solution to a disruption in class that causes an even bigger disruption, how is stopping a class to hit one of your students not more distracting than anything that kid could do. I guess any of my students would walk out if I hit them and I would have too.
What kind of respect do you learn from physical antagonism? Then kids should respect their bullies too and anyone else who could lay a whoopin on them? There are a lot of ways to get fear or submission out of people weaker than or subject to you but that doesn't translate to respect; sure lots of the systems and institutions we deal with are coercive but they needn't be.
C.P. is a quick fix which by threat of violence asserts dominance and submission a classic but decidedly uncooperative environment for learning and growing; many studies show it to be detrimental to child welfare. By and large, It might be an immediate answer to a disruption but it's a lazy practice by a caregiver who is either too indifferent or ill equipped to properly attend to a child acting out of turn which is, particularly in Korea where students practically live at school, part of the job. The particular practices used with students are less important, so long as they are persistent and considerate they will more than likely be effective in quieting the even the most disruptive students.
The major problem is that C.P. for many who swear by it, is a first response -the only tool their tool box, to address behavior issues and not their last resort. If a student is acting out to get attention and the attention they get is aggressive and physical (if not violent) then that is the attention they will take and eventually give. Sort term gain for long term pain. It's just not worth it.

[dairyairy]

When the school board leaders can agree on what should be done then, hopefully, they will issue some clear rules for schools, teachers, parents, and students. In the article, the Gyeonggi-do school board chairman is offering no leadership on the issue and seems to be undercutting any efforts from the LMB school authorities. What a mess!

[andrewchon]

This thread is going off the tangent. The violence that they are talking about is student-student violence, not teacher-student. As for corporal punishment being the cause, bullying happens in schools that doesn't use CP as well, so I don't buy that at all.

[Weigookin74]

CP shouldn't be decided arbitrally by the teacher. Teacher sends problem student to principal or vice principal and they use CP based on a series of warnings for recurring behaviour similiar to a boss implementing warnings to correct behaviour before actually firing you. I think the old days of teachers hitting you for not writing neatly was way off base and lazy on the teacher's part.

CP ought to be allowed, but as a last resort and professionally administered. It ought to be used after time outs and other behaviour modifications. For most kids these things will work fine. But for the odd problem child, CP may be the option of last resort.

Getting rid of CP here is having an impact. We can all witness it. Though I never liked the idea of the teacher hitting the kid with the stick when they felt like it. Our own society went from one extreme to another instead of finding a professional middle ground based on common sense.

[thurst]

if you're enough of a degenerate for it be officially documented on your transcripts then schools should know or be able to easily get the information if they so request. the idea that you shouldn't be held accountable for your actions is completely ridiculous, but i can't say i'm surprised considering "but i was drunk!" is a completely valid excuse in this country

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