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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:55 pm    Post subject: Hollister models mock Asians at SK grand opening Reply with quote

Hollister models mock Asians at South Korea grand opening

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Surf-themed apparel brand Hollister, the self-proclaimed �coolest destination for genuine SoCal style clothes,� is riding a wave of consumer anger after its launch in South Korea was marred by reports of racial insensitivity.

English-language site KoreaBANG reported that some of the four models at the Abercrombie and Fitch Co.-owned brand�s South Korean grand opening in the Seoul neighborhood of Yeouido a little over a week ago flashed middle fingers during promotional photos and posted Facebook photos and comments mocking Asians� appearance and pronunciation of English.

"We sincerely apologize for the offense caused by these unauthorized, ill-considered actions,� the company said in a statement about the South Korea incident. �Abercrombie & Fitch (as well as Hollister Co.) has now completed the investigation into the facts and circumstances surrounding the inappropriate behavior. We reiterate that we do not tolerate inappropriate or offensive behavior on the part of our associates. As a result of the investigation, the company terminated the couple of associates involved."

It�s not clear, though, if the badly-behaving models were the ones who got the ax following the furor. When asked to clarify if the reference to �associates� referred to the models in question, the company replied, �We have no further comment.�

Eric Dezenhall, CEO of Dezenhall Resources and co-author of Damage Control: Why Everything You Know About Crisis Management is Wrong, says the proliferation of social media and mobile devices are a major reason why inappropriate behavior can mushroom so quickly into a PR nightmare for a company.

�it�s not that it didn�t happen years ago, it�s that you can�t hide today,� he said. �There�s bad news and good news for Hollister. In this electronic climate this sort of thing spreads extremely quickly and you can�t get it back... The good news is this stuff tends to fade rather quickly.�

Hollister needs to apologize quickly and sincerely, then keep its head down and get back to the business of selling T-shirts, Dezenhall said. �The solution to most crises is commercial success. If Hollister begins to have commercial success...everything else will recede.�

Paradoxically, the controversy possibly could help Hollister, said NYU Stern School of Business management communication professor Irving Schenkler. �I think there�s a category for certain brands known as rebellious brands,� he said, pointing out that retailers like Calvin Klein and Nike have embraced provocative images and figures.

Dezenhall made a similar point, saying, �The other thing to keep in mind is that there�s a hipness about the brand that inoculates them to some degree.�

One added wrinkle for Hollister is that since this was its introduction to the South Korean retail market, a negative first impression could stick with the brand image. �It�s not like they�d been in the market for 20 years and someone did something stupid,� Dezenhall said. �I think they have a problem but it remains to be seen if they have a crisis.�

Hollister parent Abercrombie & Fitch has courted controversy before with its flagship brand, such as a 2002 line of T-shirts depicting Asian caricatures like �Wong Brothers Laundry Service.� The company pulled the shirts after complaints mounted.

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Dave Chance



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah not mannerly, but somehow more true than b.s. 'I love u' shtick
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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making fake "slanty-eyes" in front of local tourist attraction, Royal Gueongbokkung Palace


You see this is why you should only ever employ people with previous international experience. People with at least a smidgeon of cultural sensitivity. Its really no longer acceptable for people to never have been outside of their own country by age 25. This is the 21st c.

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men dressed like lifeguards, wearing nothing on their chests but whistles" also stirred up some local racism and sexism


How dumb can you get, to pose models shirtless in Korea. Did nobody tell them that a bare chest causes shock and horror in this country?


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Koreans aware of the incident, the paper said, were offended. "I've got to go and return the clothes that I bought," KoreaBang reported one local saying.


And then there's the netizens

Rolling Eyes
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(Korean) male commenters objected to the Korean women who would enjoy posing and having their photo taken with the Hollister models and made slurs against both Korean girls and whites in general.

http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/hollister-models-post-racist-photos-south-korea-store-190400183.html
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a moronic publicity stunt to me. It worked. I'd never heard of them until this. I bet they sell more clothing than ever now.
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Smithington



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And we all know how cautious Koreans are to avoid mocking other ethnicities. Listen up Korea, take the 'two by four' out of your own eye before pointing the finger of 'cultural insensitivity' at others.

One other point, I also had never heard of this company before this incident. So, who knows.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And we all know how cautious Koreans are to avoid mocking other ethnicities.


Individual Koreans have a right to be upset. They don't represent Korea nor do they have to answer for Korea anymore than you represent your home country and have to answer for it.

Now, if certain publications in the Korean press makes a stink of it, then that's pretty slimy considering their past actions.
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Titus



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG Guys!!
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kingplaya4



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of you haven't heard of them because you're dinosaurs as far as current hip western culture is. When you're away from home 5+ years things are going to change. It seems to be a similar kind of fad to what Tommy Hillfiger was to those of us in our early thrities probably remember. I think the most popular trayvon martin picture had him wearing one of their hoodies or shirts.
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Smithington



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
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And we all know how cautious Koreans are to avoid mocking other ethnicities.


Individual Koreans have a right to be upset. They don't represent Korea nor do they have to answer for Korea anymore than you represent your home country and have to answer for it.

Now, if certain publications in the Korean press makes a stink of it, then that's pretty slimy considering their past actions.


They have the right to get upsrt on one condition. That they are also offended by the depiction of other ethnicities in their newspapers, tv and school text books. Just yesterday I taught a grade four class and the DVD lesson contained an ESL game. One character was a Korean, the other was an African cannibal wearing animal skins and carrying a spear and shield. If you got the answer correct the African chap got caught up in a rope. If you got it wrong you ended up in a pot. I kid you not. I was seething but the co-teacher didn't seem to find any problem with it.

Now if this representation on African people to impressionable children doesn't warrant complain from Koreans, then I'm not too sympathetic to their outrage over 'chinky eyes'. And how many Koreans spoke out against the MBC documentary a few months back depicting you and I as aids infected rapists? Not very many. So yeah, they have a right to be insulted by what the models did. But that just makes them thin-skinned hypocrites.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
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And we all know how cautious Koreans are to avoid mocking other ethnicities.


Individual Koreans have a right to be upset. They don't represent Korea nor do they have to answer for Korea anymore than you represent your home country and have to answer for it.

Now, if certain publications in the Korean press makes a stink of it, then that's pretty slimy considering their past actions.


They have the right to get upsrt on one condition. That they are also offended by the depiction of other ethnicities in their newspapers, tv and school text books. Just yesterday I taught a grade four class and the DVD lesson contained an ESL game. One character was a Korean, the other was an African cannibal wearing animal skins and carrying a spear and shield. If you got the answer correct the African chap got caught up in a rope. If you got it wrong you ended up in a pot. I kid you not. I was seething but the co-teacher didn't seem to find any problem with it.

Now if this representation on African people to impressionable children doesn't warrant complain from Koreans, then I'm not too sympathetic to their outrage over 'chinky eyes'. And how many Koreans spoke out against the MBC documentary a few months back depicting you and I as aids infected rapists? Not very many. So yeah, they have a right to be insulted by what the models did. But that just makes them thin-skinned hypocrites.


And your "blaming the victim" while railing against Korean racism here is what, consistency?

Ask any Asian-American if they experienced racism towards Asians and they can probably give you a half-dozen stories. I'm pretty sure that a good chunk of NETs here have laughed at a racial joke or chuckled at some off-color stereotypical Hollywood screen portrayal of an Asian. I doubt that people are taking 'Breakfast at Tiffany's' of their list of favorite movies. But does that mean it's wrong for people to complain about things like the MBC video?

And for the record, I don't think what the Hollister schmoes did was that bad. The poses weren't really a big deal. Everyone knows about the Asian peace thing. The language stuff was a little belongs in the 1980s groan-inducing, but nothing severe.

I do think it is revealing at the underlying attitudes towards Asians that are still lingering beneath the surface in America. Just the same as Korean racism, this didn't pop up out of nowhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13831316-korean-american-man-sues-queens-hooters-over-racial-slur-on-receipt?lite

Korean-American man sues Queens Hooters over racial slur on receipt

NBC New York

A worker at a Hooters in Queens, N.Y., resigned after identifying a Korean-American man and his girlfriend with a racial slur.
By NBCNewYork.com

A Korean-American man is suing a Hooters restaurant in Queens after a worker there identified him and his girlfriend on a receipt using a slur referring to Asians, they allege.

Kisuk Cha, 25, and his girlfriend, both Korean immigrants, placed a to-go order at Hooters in Fresh Meadows, Queens on July 10, according to their lawyer Daniel D. Baek.

This story originally appeared on NBCNewYork.com.

After placing their order, the couple noticed their hostess and another worker standing at the computer giggling and "gawking at them," according to the lawsuit.

When their hostess handed them their receipt, it had the word "Chinx" printed in the space reserved for the customer's name.

"Here we are in Fresh Meadows, and we have large populations of Asian Americans � Korean Americans, Chinese Americans, Indian Americans, you name it," said Baek. "It's happening right here in Fresh Meadows. I'm shocked."

Cha told the New York Times he was so distraught that he lost his appetite and, when he got home, threw the food away.

The unemployed information technology specialist emigrated from Korea in 2000 and lives in Philadelphia, according to the Times.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13831316-korean-american-man-sues-queens-hooters-over-racial-slur-on-receipt?lite

Korean-American man sues Queens Hooters over racial slur on receipt

NBC New York

A worker at a Hooters in Queens, N.Y., resigned after identifying a Korean-American man and his girlfriend with a racial slur.
By NBCNewYork.com

A Korean-American man is suing a Hooters restaurant in Queens after a worker there identified him and his girlfriend on a receipt using a slur referring to Asians, they allege.

Kisuk Cha, 25, and his girlfriend, both Korean immigrants, placed a to-go order at Hooters in Fresh Meadows, Queens on July 10, according to their lawyer Daniel D. Baek.

This story originally appeared on NBCNewYork.com.

After placing their order, the couple noticed their hostess and another worker standing at the computer giggling and "gawking at them," according to the lawsuit.

When their hostess handed them their receipt, it had the word "Chinx" printed in the space reserved for the customer's name.

"Here we are in Fresh Meadows, and we have large populations of Asian Americans � Korean Americans, Chinese Americans, Indian Americans, you name it," said Baek. "It's happening right here in Fresh Meadows. I'm shocked."

Cha told the New York Times he was so distraught that he lost his appetite and, when he got home, threw the food away.

The unemployed information technology specialist emigrated from Korea in 2000 and lives in Philadelphia, according to the Times.


Time for them to realize it ain't all a Disney movie over there in the states.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave Chance wrote:
Zackback wrote:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13831316-korean-american-man-sues-queens-hooters-over-racial-slur-on-receipt?lite

Korean-American man sues Queens Hooters over racial slur on receipt

NBC New York

A worker at a Hooters in Queens, N.Y., resigned after identifying a Korean-American man and his girlfriend with a racial slur.
By NBCNewYork.com

A Korean-American man is suing a Hooters restaurant in Queens after a worker there identified him and his girlfriend on a receipt using a slur referring to Asians, they allege.

Kisuk Cha, 25, and his girlfriend, both Korean immigrants, placed a to-go order at Hooters in Fresh Meadows, Queens on July 10, according to their lawyer Daniel D. Baek.

This story originally appeared on NBCNewYork.com.

After placing their order, the couple noticed their hostess and another worker standing at the computer giggling and "gawking at them," according to the lawsuit.

When their hostess handed them their receipt, it had the word "Chinx" printed in the space reserved for the customer's name.

"Here we are in Fresh Meadows, and we have large populations of Asian Americans � Korean Americans, Chinese Americans, Indian Americans, you name it," said Baek. "It's happening right here in Fresh Meadows. I'm shocked."

Cha told the New York Times he was so distraught that he lost his appetite and, when he got home, threw the food away.

The unemployed information technology specialist emigrated from Korea in 2000 and lives in Philadelphia, according to the Times.


Time for them to realize it ain't all a Disney movie over there in the states.



If these were Koreans in Korea treating foreigners this way you'd be screaming about how their culture needs to join the 21st century.

But Koreans in America? Blame the victim.

Time to look in your heart and examine your bigotry.
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
the couple noticed their hostess and another worker standing at the computer giggling and "gawking at them," according to the lawsuit.

When their hostess handed them their receipt, it had the word "Chinx" printed in the space reserved for the customer's name.



I had the word "WEIGUKIN" printed on my receipt and I also got the same whispered awkward giggly treatment at a restaurant in Seoul once.


Can I sue?
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Scorpion



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been denied service at a restaurant here twice. Can I sue?
My friend was denied access to a sauna. Can he sue?
I have been told that I must get an AIDS test, but my gyopo mate from New Jersey doesn't need to bother. Can I sue?

The thing about this Holister story is this: They all got fired! Every last one of them. How many people at MBC got fired (or even reprimanded) over that racist report about foreigners last June? Confused
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