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dorlore
Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:41 am Post subject: Getting Fired in Korea |
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I was just wondering if anyone has any insight if one was to get fired from their job in Korea and how that works. Specifically about finding a new job. I work for an after school program and know there's some shaddy stuff that goes one with these programs and how teachers can get left out of the cold. Teachers with my company have actually being getting fired lately. Just wanted to take the right precautions in case the worst case happens.
Also would one need to get a new background check as well. I haven't gotten one since last year.
Any insight would be helpful. |
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Troglodyte

Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:47 am Post subject: |
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If you're fired for unjust cause then the labor board can help you to transfer your visa. In that case you don't need a new CRC (or the other documents you needed the first time around).
As a precaution, take note of anything illegal that the school is doing. If you're been cheated on pay, report it to the labor board (after 14 days). If they already have a record on the employer then things look more in your favor when you get fired. |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Gather evidence.... As said above make notes and record down all and shady things you see happening.
Always be looking. This I should be doing myself. All be on the look out for a job. Once in a while check out the jobs ads. Put out feelers with friends on leads. Keep resume and that handy.
Be prepared. If you are fired and you have your paperwork all ready, you could walk into a new job in days. It is more then paperwork, where will you stay, what are you going to do with your stuff. So keep an eye out for a couch to stay on. A friend who can store boxes. A mover.
Study, Know, and Learn. Read this board and others like it. Browse the government sites on how things work. The more you know, the less likely you will get screwed. Talk to people.
More later..... |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Ideally they want people with F6 for this job. They are actually taking a risk by hiring someone with E2 to do it. So, obviously, as soon as they can find a replacement for you, you're gone. I'd start looking asap. |
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dorlore
Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Wow things have changed a lot lately. The last month they have lost 20 students at the school and gained only 10. They haven't said anything to me but any small mistake I may make is getting magnified. They fired the guy before me for not doing a good job and I am kind of worried about the same. I think I'm doing good: Always finish the lessons, the book work, students enjoy my classes, get along with my Korean co teacher...etc. There's just an uneasy feeling about it though.
2 more questions:
1) How much time do they gave you in advance before you get fired.
2) How much time do I have to find a new job. I have all my documents but I came back on a tourist visa to get this job and only had 3 months to get the job since I left to go back home.
I will call immigration tomorrow but anymore insight would be appreciated. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Do they give you material and training to teach? Sounds like they lost students and then blame it on you. |
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thebearofbundang
Joined: 02 Sep 2012 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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I worked for an afterschool program for 2 years.. Just so you know, this is the time of year when most programs lose students.. We would always start in March with around 120 and finish in February closer to 110 or lower.. Most of the students we would lose after summer vacation.. Also, remember that they can't fire you for no reason. Never be late, and give them no excuse to let you go. The best thing to do is try to build strong relationships with the mothers. They will basically control what happens to you. You are not a normal school teacher, so the school and your company only care that the mothers are happy because they pay the bills.. They had a huge amount of control over my afterschool program and I had formed a good relationship with many of them, which meant I was never worried about job security. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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There's just an uneasy feeling about it though. |
It's hard to keep students in after school classes because there is competition with hagwons which are teaching children at the same time, and they don't just teach English. It's easier for parents to send their child to the hagwon and learn English there.
After school programs are better for 1st and 2nd graders. Some 3rd and 4th graders will continue, but they will come late or leave early. The 5th and 6th graders will go when their friends are doing more interesting stuff.
It's designed to fail for the older kids. It has nothing to do with the teacher and firing the teacher just costs the organization running the classes more money because they have to hire a new teacher. They try to convince parents that a new teacher is teaching after school classes and their child should come back. That's their tactic. I am surprised they don't rotate teachers instead. Maybe it's just too difficult with immigration.
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1) How much time do they gave you in advance before you get fired.
2) How much time do I have to find a new job. I have all my documents but I came back on a tourist visa to get this job and only had 3 months to get the job since I left to go back home. |
If they fire you now, it will be abrupt. You won't expect it, because a new semester has started. It would be more of a thing they would assess in November. Your first clue is if a manager visits your class to observe. One time might be a formality, but if they are constantly talking to you about changes in your lessons, that's a hint they want you to do different stuff.
If you are satisfied with what you are doing, then that is the time to look for a new school. If you are willing to make the necessary changes then you need to let them know about these changes when you actually make them. Then they can re-evaluate you and see if you can jump through their hoops.
You have to talk with the school about how much time you have to find a new school. If fired now, probably not much. They will most likely have a new teacher already waiting to move into your apartment.
This might be a good time to get a hagwon job. If they are looking for a teacher, and you like working at schools with several other teachers, then it's likely they underestimated the need and just want one more teacher. Better to leave a failing after school job and get the benefits of a growing hagwon. If you prefer being the only English teacher, then look for a school needing to replace a teacher finishing their contract. |
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dorlore
Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the insight. After school jobs sounded all great when I first looked into them but now after being there for a few months it seems that foreign teachers are expendable. The school was actually looking to hire and E2. They had fired quite a few F6s for whatever reason and were looking to hire an E2.
I asked the guy who hired me today about my status and he said there was nothing to worry about. I couldn't control the loss of students. I still feel just really uninformed about everything that goes on there. The first few months there were fine but since the sig drop in students, it has been pretty stressful.
It's bad when a new teacher that's about to start working for my company, who has taught after school for 4 years, teaches my students one day and tells me those are the worst classes he's ever had. Ehhhh FML.
The company put up key money for my apartment so noone would move in there. I'd have a place to stay if the worst happens.
Basically it feels like I am just not trying to make any minor mistake up there these days. Very stressful
What hakwons are you referring to? I looked at multiple ones when I came back in person and were not many I really considered to work at. Too long hours and too much CCTV which was terrible at my lost job |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:16 am Post subject: |
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What hakwons are you referring to? |
If that is for me, it's all like shopping for fruit and vegetables. Look and see what is fresh. There isn't a list of good hagwons.
You need to investigate it and gather and hunt. Visit the schools, do you get along with the hagwon owner? Ask about the schedule. In the contract, it might be long hours but they just want to make sure you are available.
I had a 9am to 7 or 8pm job, but if I wasn't teaching, I could go home. It was divided up mostly into morning and afternoon hours. I couldn't hang out with friends for dinner, but I could get to the bank before they closed and do shopping before the afternoon classes. |
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