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Airborne9
Joined: 01 Jun 2010
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| Well, a look at any ESL job posting site tells us there are TONS of jobs out there. I would agree the market is no where near flooded with applicants. Even SMOE had a to stretch their recruitment later this semester, and they were getting rid of high and middle school teachers. Talk about people not being able to look beyond their personal bubble, look at this site. If anyone went by what was said here they'd think Korea was 1930s era Kansas. I would say the OP's lack of diploma so far that is the problem, add that to only looking at the biggest cities. |
Quite well said. |
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adzee1
Joined: 22 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think that the market is either quite flooded or very bias. I am looking for a job and have 4 years experience and am already in Korea, I have been getting a few bites from recruiters but I wouldnt say I am flooded with options and may end up having to take a job that I dont really want if nothing good comes up in the next few weeks.
I am not fat and I am not ugly, I worked as a recruitment consultant in England for 4 years so I know how to write a CV and a cover letter so thats not my problem.
What I think my problem is, (or what I think the recruiters/ schools problem is) is that I am married which seems to act as a massive deterrent for some reason even though it has no impact on the school whatsoever.
Also having worked in recruitment in the UK in 3 different market sectors, I kind of know how unethical and one minded recruiters can be, and that the primary focus for them is money which is understandable. However I think it varies from sector to sector and I have to say that the ESL recruiters involved in this country are far worse in terms of responding and managing their candidates than any I have experienced. |
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MetaFitX
Joined: 23 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't tell if you're great at deadpan or just incredibly obtuse. |
Nope. I came here with a 4-year B.A. and zero experience in 10' (back then there were just as many people saying the market was "flooded" lulz). After putting up a few resumes online I snagged a job within a week.
Went home after my first contract, put my resume up again and had 3 job offers within a week. Took one of them.
If someone like me with very little experience can do it then so can you. Stop making excuses. |
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adzee1
Joined: 22 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| MetaFitX wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| I can't tell if you're great at deadpan or just incredibly obtuse. |
Nope. I came here with a 4-year B.A. and zero experience in 10' (back then there were just as many people saying the market was "flooded" lulz). After putting up a few resumes online I snagged a job within a week.
Went home after my first contract, put my resume up again and had 3 job offers within a week. Took one of them.
If someone like me with very little experience can do it then so can you. Stop making excuses. |
Just depends what kind of job you are looking for though I guess. I could have had " a job " but not necessarily a job that I really want. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for your response, that makes a lot of sense. I probably have about a month before I receive my diploma, do you think it would be worth the time/money to get a TEFL certificate or is it not even worth it? |
Unless you are going for a public school job. No. The PS Hiring season over. Maybe if the TEFL is good if you need that special something to edge you over that MA of Basket Weaving teacher competing for the same university job.
Nah a TEFL is not needed. Good to have just in case or get some training. Sorry a TEFL is down the list of what recruiters and schools want. Looks, nationality, gender, and age will be looked at first before the TEFL. |
the op can still find a job if he keeps trying.
two of my friends recently got their positions and moved to korea three weeks ago and started working already for public elementary schools in seoul. both are female and one graduated from stanford and the other from berkeley, class of '12. oh and both are white and always wanted to go there. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Moondoggy wrote: |
| Skippy wrote: |
| ibanezhomie wrote: |
| Thanks for your response, that makes a lot of sense. I probably have about a month before I receive my diploma, do you think it would be worth the time/money to get a TEFL certificate or is it not even worth it? |
Unless you are going for a public school job. No. The PS Hiring season over. Maybe if the TEFL is good if you need that special something to edge you over that MA of Basket Weaving teacher competing for the same university job.
Nah a TEFL is not needed. Good to have just in case or get some training. Sorry a TEFL is down the list of what recruiters and schools want. Looks, nationality, gender, and age will be looked at first before the TEFL. |
the op can still find a job if he keeps trying.
two of my friends recently got their positions and moved to korea three weeks ago and started working already for public elementary schools in seoul. both are female and one graduated from stanford and the other from berkeley, class of '12. oh and both are white and always wanted to go there. |
Bwhahaha!!!! |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| Moondoggy wrote: |
the op can still find a job if he keeps trying.
two of my friends recently got their positions and moved to korea three weeks ago and started working already for public elementary schools in seoul. both are female and one graduated from stanford and the other from berkeley, class of '12. oh and both are white and always wanted to go there. |
Bwhahaha!!!! |
What is so funny about that? |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| Moondoggy wrote: |
the op can still find a job if he keeps trying.
two of my friends recently got their positions and moved to korea three weeks ago and started working already for public elementary schools in seoul. both are female and one graduated from stanford and the other from berkeley, class of '12. oh and both are white and always wanted to go there. |
Bwhahaha!!!! |
What is so funny about that? |
It's funny that one would pay a quarter MILL to graduate from Stanford to teach in Korea. Outrageously pathetic. |
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Pablo
Joined: 15 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| Outrageously pathetic. |
Yawn... |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with Dodge on this one. It's a total waste of an ivy league education to teach English in Korea.
What I was actually slapping my forehead about was using these two as an example on how the market is not flooded. Two white, female, ivy league graduates will never have any trouble finding work in South Korea. In fact, any female won't have trouble finding work right now. But for men, minorities, older folk, and anyone not in Korea, I would say the market is pretty tight. I would say a non-white male in his fifties, not in Korea, and without a PhD has zero chance of getting a job this year. |
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Pablo
Joined: 15 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I was actually slapping my forehead |
Try slapping harder. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The OP doesn't have his diploma yet. He will not get any job offers until he has ALL of his docs together. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
I'm with Dodge on this one. It's a total waste of an ivy league education to teach English in Korea.
What I was actually slapping my forehead about was using these two as an example on how the market is not flooded. Two white, female, ivy league graduates will never have any trouble finding work in South Korea. In fact, any female won't have trouble finding work right now. But for men, minorities, older folk, and anyone not in Korea, I would say the market is pretty tight. I would say a non-white male in his fifties, not in Korea, and without a PhD has zero chance of getting a job this year. |
A: Those schools aren't Ivy League. They are certainly 2 of the best public unis in America (and the world).
B: I don't see how they are wasting their time by taking a 1 year sabbatical to travel and experience something different. Having graduated from those unis is most likely enough to be able to go back home and get into their field afterwards.
C: Agreeing with someone that constantly whines about being stuck in Korea (even though that person supposedly has a teaching license back home...why did YOU come to Korea to get dongchimmed at your after-school gig if you are able to work back home?.....)and berates others for doing the same job as him isn't such a good thing.
D: I am quite sure that I could get a job in Korea this year as a not in Korea, non-twenties male if I wanted. |
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proverbs
Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| i believe Moondoggy was being sarcastic. |
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proverbs
Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| i believe Moondoggy was being sarcastic. |
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