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michpottier



Joined: 03 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Canadian embassy experience Reply with quote

Hey All! I am leaving Korea after 5 years of a great experience. However, I just wanted to ask averyone out there if they have ever had a good or bad experience dealing with the Canadian Embassy in Seoul? The reason I ask is purely out of curiosity. I have personally just wrapped up getting my common law fiance a visa for Canada and it was a nightmare!
The whole building is a mystery to me, since it is about 8 floors and quite large, yet Canadians only have access to the lobby and a bit of the basement. I have also NEVER met anyone who has ever worked there, even though aside from the basic clerical staff all the staff are Canadian citizens. Has anyone ever met someone who worked there, or knows someone? The last time I was there I saw some Canadian staff entering the building, and they were actually quite young. It just seems very strange to me that there is such a large facility can barely process a visa in less than 6 months to a year, does little or nothing for the Canadian expat community here (unless they are wealthy investors), and never intermingal with the immense Canadian population in Korea (around 20,000 at last count).
Any thoughts or experiences?

Thanks!
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Common-law fiance" - dude come on. How hard is it to just get married. It takes a couple hours. And it saves a hell of a lot of trouble in getting PR for your "wife". Do you have commitment issues or something.

As of the embassy - a total waste of tax payer dollars. If I was Prime Minister I would immediately close every embassy in the world and move all the services online.
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Landros



Joined: 19 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:36 am    Post subject: heh Reply with quote

what did you expect? Canadian gov't is full of red tape. You should have got married. their waiting is probably to stop sham marriages and to check out that people aren't trafficking women for night clubs or prostitution.

I renewed my passport and it was kind of stupid that they wouldn't take any cash. I had to find a bank and a post office nad wire transfer even though I had the cash on hand. anyway they make the rules. if you don't like them join some other country.

The new building is sweet. the old one was pretty lame.

There is the canada day events and the Canadian Chamber of Commerence does a lot of event with them.

Also the embassy are helping North Korean Defectors so cut them some slack. Just because you have no idea what they do don;t mean they aren't doing anything.

I don't see the Chinese embassy doing anything but how would I even notice?

At least the Brits have a bar!!
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michpottier



Joined: 03 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, no commitment issues, just that neither of us are Korean, so kind of want to have the wedding in Canada. The visa for wife and common law are exactly the same, that wasn't an issue.

I've seen those events but they are over priced, and really only designed for the few business people in the country, and the Chamber really pays and organizes these, no the embassy. I remember when they did a Canada Day event by the river in Seoul, but I guess that wasn't good for business.

I'm sure a lot of embassies are the same, but Canada's is sooo huge. I think the brits have the right idea. I'm sure they do something, but I just would like to know what?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had both good and bad experiences. They seem to be closed for every holiday... and even made up holidays. And also, the embassy staff run in very specific circles.. and are shocked when you do not - for example, they'll calmly say that you should know a judge or lawyer or doctor. And while I do, it struck me as odd that they assume everyone is familiar with that type of people.
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michpottier



Joined: 03 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, so they do hang out in 'upper crust' circles. That's a shame.
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michpottier



Joined: 03 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, so they do hang out in 'upper crust' circles. That's a shame.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In over a decade of having the misfortune of having to deal with the Canadian embassy I can say that I have NEVER had a good experience there.

The service is just plain bad.

The staff service and consular staff are ignorant and indifferent. Passport replacement applications (for expiring passports) should be quick and painless, not the time consuming waste of time that they make them to be.

The staff are CARELESS (how do you manage to lose birth registration photos going from the window to the in-basket?).

They managed to significantly damage (to the point where she required a new passport at our expense) my wife's passport when she was applying for a TRV to Canada.

They do not respond in a timely fashion to any query, inquiry, concern or complaint (either by phone, FAX or e-mail). Pay your money and if something isn't answered to their satisfaction they will return (at your expense) the documents, keep your money and require you to try again (with another fee attached) but we won't answer your query about the questions you asked to ensure that the problem wouldn't occur in the first place.

Rarely do I wish ill will on anyone but for the consular staff at the Canadian embassy I will make an exception and wish that the worst of all possible circumstances befall them whenever possible. May their next posting be to Libya.

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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dealings with them have been fine. Renewed my passport there twice without issue & a couple other inquiries on other occasions were handled quickly & efficiently.

Others have apparently had a different experience, but no gripe here.
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

michpottier wrote:
The visa for wife and common law are exactly the same, that wasn't an issue.


That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. The procedure is obviously not the same. You have to prove your common law status. That takes documentation and lots of it. Unlike if you were married, as it only takes one document--the marriage certificate. And to blow it off like it wasn't an issue when you stated in your OP that is was a "nightmare" getting a visa for your wife. I had to provide more documents to get my F6 than my wife had to provide to get her PR. Application + fee, mail it, wait 6 months, get visa, go to Canada. Done. No nightmare.
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radcon



Joined: 23 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is their rationale in requiring Canadian citizens to have a local doctor or lawyer vouch for them in order to renew a passport? That seems really effed up to me.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

radcon wrote:
What is their rationale in requiring Canadian citizens to have a local doctor or lawyer vouch for them in order to renew a passport? That seems really effed up to me.


Thats the guarantor requirement. It is the same for canadians in Canada unless they use the simplified renewal process (which has certain requirements).


As for the Embassy, we dealt with them when my wife had to process her immigration papers for Canada and it was sub-par service at best.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom that's a bit harsh. I know you had some bad luck there, but wishing ill on those people is a bit much. The people you delt with probably have been rotated out and don't work there anymore.

My experiences have been good. The workers were always professional, polite and helpful. I have no complaints about them.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
Tom that's a bit harsh. I know you had some bad luck there, but wishing ill on those people is a bit much. The people you delt with probably have been rotated out and don't work there anymore.

My experiences have been good. The workers were always professional, polite and helpful. I have no complaints about them.


My experience has been adequate. That was because I was prepared and spent the time and effort to KNOW what to do. I mean I spend the time and effort. Weeks of research and digging up info. Using my orecious vacation time to travel to another city to find witnesses and such. If I was like most people who are half prepared or need something done in a quick manner, I would have been screwed.

The Canadian passport renewal is pretty much of the major E-2 countries on of the hardest and most convoluted of them all.

The guarantor is one of the most annoying of them all. Remember it has to be a doctor, lawyer, etc WHO has KNOWN you personally for TWO years. For some if they have been here a short time is impossible to fulfill. Maybe then they can do the in lie of .... For those who have been here a while it can be equally as impossible to find someone, more so when you are an introvert like me. Many long timers have been refused the in lie of route and told to find someone. OK maybe the doctors and dentists might be doable, but I go to different ones each time or for a short time. Besides why would the remember me.

Then add addresses for last few years. Two people who have known you for the time. Special passport photo requirements. It gets mighty annoying.

Then add on the weird business hours of the consulate.

Edit: because I made a really stupid spelling mistake.


Last edited by Skippy on Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:41 am; edited 1 time in total
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guarantor issue can be solved with this:

http://www.ppt.gc.ca/info/132.aspx?lang=eng

It is odd they (CDN Embassy in Seoul) would refuse anyone this because if it is properly filled, it is sufficient....then again I am sure it could happen.

At the end of the day a passport is a pretty important document and to obtain one should be a secure process.
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