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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy question - has anyone ever had troubles with this?
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thrylos



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Easy question - has anyone ever had troubles with this?


nope
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fosterman wrote:
T-J wrote:
fosterman wrote:
just be sure that your ticket has the Korean name on it and you are leaving with your Korean passport! otherwise you will have problems!


Not true at all.

My son has flown out of Korea multiple times, departing Korea with his Korean passport and tickets matching his English name that is in his U.S. passport.


yes, but you MUST fly out with your Korean passport, and your son probably doesn't have a korean name in his passport does he? his ENglish name is his Korean name right?


No. He has an English name in his U.S. passport and a Korean name in his Korean passport. When he departs Korea he does so with a ticket with his English name (John Q. Smith) and his Korean passport (Kim Soo Min).

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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Re-reading my previous post I can see I could have been clearer.

Quote:



Not true at all.

My son has flown out of Korea multiple times, departing Korea with his Korean passport and tickets matching his English name that is in his U.S. passport.



Should read:

Not true at all.

My son has flown out of Korea multiple times, departing Korea with his Korean passport which has his Korean name and tickets with his English name matching that which is in his U.S. passport.
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fosterman



Joined: 16 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:

Re-reading my previous post I can see I could have been clearer.

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Not true at all.

My son has flown out of Korea multiple times, departing Korea with his Korean passport and tickets matching his English name that is in his U.S. passport.



Should read:

Not true at all.

My son has flown out of Korea multiple times, departing Korea with his Korean passport which has his Korean name and tickets with his English name matching that which is in his U.S. passport.


just curious TJ, how can your on be called KIM? is your family name KIM?
or park or what ever his Korean name is...
does he get his wifes family name? is that even legally possible?
or is his name
SMITH MIN SOO?
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b-class rambler



Joined: 25 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Because that is not how dual citizenship works.

When you are in a country you have the rights and responsibilities of a citizen. One of those responsibilities is to enter the country under that nationality's passport.



Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
ㅅㅅ If you are only going as a tourist I don't think it matters.

My parents are dual Canada and UK. They reside in Canada and visit the UK on Canadian passports. They don't hold UK passports, but are still UK citizens. They've never had any problems.


That's correct - at least for the UK, it is. If you enter the UK as a tourist, you don't have to do so on your UK passport if you have one.

Some countries allowing dual nationality do legally require dual nationals to use ONLY that country's passport to enter and exit the country. Korea insists on this, and it appears the US does too. But not all countries allowing dual nationality have that requirement.

Getting back on topic of dual kids exiting/returning to Korea, I was under the impression that if K-immi knows your kid has some other passport, they want you to get some kind of stamp in it from them that indicates that this passport holder also has a Korean passport. I've heard from a couple of people who were using both of their child's passports to leave Korea - i.e. the foreign one to be shown with the ticket/boarding pass and the Korean one to show to k-immi. When the guy stamping passports noticed the kid had 2 passports, these people were told they needed to go to the airport immi office and get this extra stamp put in the foreign passport.

This didn't happen to me so I may have some of the details wrong, but I've heard of this from enough people to suggest it has some basis in fact.
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
ㅅㅅ If you are only going as a tourist I don't think it matters.

My parents are dual Canada and UK. They reside in Canada and visit the UK on Canadian passports. They don't hold UK passports, but are still UK citizens. They've never had any problems.


Sorry to disagree, but it depends on the country. Australia requires Australian citizens to enter on an Australian Passport.

Back to the OP the only problem was when my daughter entered Hong Kong on her Korean Passport, but had left Australia on her Australian, and the problem only arose when we were leaving Hong Kong and took 2 minutes to fix.
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chungbukdo



Joined: 22 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never heard of children with dual passports, but I have heard of children with two passports. I do not know of any countries that publish a "dual" passport that represents citizenship of two countries at a time.
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a similar situation to TJ. My sons have both Korean and US passports. They use a Korean name (my wife's family name) with their Korean passport and they use an English name (with my family name) on their American passport.

We usually use thier Korean names on their tickets as we buy them here in Korea. This has never been a problem entering/leaving the U.S. or any other country. When we check-in at the airport, we show both passports. The attendent notes it in the computer. Occasionally, an official will look a little baffled and we show both passports and they immediately understand and we have never received any grief for this.

My kids have never had any troubles and everyone has always been polite and even hospitable.

The only time I have had any problems was with me when I first got my F-5 visa. I was flying home from Korea and the attendent looked at it like there was no such thing. He made a phone call to clearify what it was and then told me a bold faced lie. Fortunately, the attendent next to him realized he was giving me totally wrong information and explained the situation to him. I have never had any problems since and I have never had anything less than courteous experiences.

The OP SHOULDN'T have any problems.
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b-class rambler



Joined: 25 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_fella1 wrote:


Sorry to disagree, but it depends on the country. Australia requires Australian citizens to enter on an Australian Passport.



Yes, that's what I said - depends on the country, some do require it, some don't.

Just out of interest though, what would happen to an Aussie + other nationality citizen who entered Australia as a tourist on their other passport?

Would Aussie immigration immediately pick up on the fact that they did also have Aussie citizenship when they arrived, or perhaps during their ETA application? Or might it be possible that they wouldn't notice if the person in question never mentioned that they also had Australian citizenship, and indeed perhaps never knew in the first place?

Same question to anyone else about the US or any other country that requires dual citizens to use the passport specifically of that country to exit/enter it.
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

b-class rambler wrote:
big_fella1 wrote:


Sorry to disagree, but it depends on the country. Australia requires Australian citizens to enter on an Australian Passport.



Yes, that's what I said - depends on the country, some do require it, some don't.

Just out of interest though, what would happen to an Aussie + other nationality citizen who entered Australia as a tourist on their other passport?

Would Aussie immigration immediately pick up on the fact that they did also have Aussie citizenship when they arrived, or perhaps during their ETA application? Or might it be possible that they wouldn't notice if the person in question never mentioned that they also had Australian citizenship, and indeed perhaps never knew in the first place?

Same question to anyone else about the US or any other country that requires dual citizens to use the passport specifically of that country to exit/enter it.


An ETA wouldn't be issued, but I guess if the child had a different name on their Korean passport and their Australian citizenship certificate we may get one.

The problem would then occur when we arrived in Australia as even my Korean wife has an Australian immigration file that states the fact that she is married to and the mother of an Australian citizen, this was done when we applied for our daughters Australian Citizenship (it's not automatic even though I'm Australian). Of course my file has both them on it too.

I resented the w108,000 I had to pay for my daughters 5 year Australian passport as her Korean one was only w38,000 but there was no way around it.
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