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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Well, his song is number 1 in the UK charts right now. So, Korea might also become known for its sense of humor over there. |
The UK charts have a history of novelty songs going to number 1. A lot of those sales probably come from children. I know that when I was 8 or 9, I went out and bought a copy of the Frog Song, or Spitting Image's Chicken Song.
Why hate Psy? It is a cheesy and infectious song with a silly dance. Kids will be dancing to it at weddings and parties with their drunk uncles all around the world because it is fun. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| When I first came here the only things British people associated with Korea were eating dog and the Moonies (there were a few high profile cases of people being brainwashed) |
Ahhh yes, the Moonies, can't forget the Moonies. And as others mentioned, TKD.
I would add that in East Asia, KPop and dramas would probably be more well known than most of the things that Koreans are well known for in the west.
As for trending upwards in the west I'd say Korean BBQ, movies like Old Boy and Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring, and KPop are certainly going up, but they are nowhere near the level of the other stuff. That and the occasional sports whoever like Park Ji Sung or Chan Ho Park or KJ Choi & the LPGA.
Oh yeah, and Soon Yi Previn, Harold (of Harold & Kumar fame), Ken Jeong, Bobby Lee, Grace Park, Linda Park, LOST, and whatsherface from Arliss probably all rate higher. But they're Korean-American so... |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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As for trending upwards in the west I'd say Korean BBQ, movies like Old Boy and Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring, and KPop are certainly going up, but they are nowhere near the level of the other stuff. That and the occasional sports whoever like Park Ji Sung or Chan Ho Park or KJ Choi & the LPGA.
Oh yeah, and Soon Yi Previn, Harold (of Harold & Kumar fame), Ken Jeong, Bobby Lee, Grace Park, Linda Park, LOST, and whatsherface from Arliss probably all rate higher. But they're Korean-American so... |
The most famous Koreans in the UK, among the men, are actually the soccer/football players. There was the lad who moved from Celtic to Swansea who played well over the weekend. And of course Jisung Park at QPR. The tv stars are probably more popular with the women but I don't think they are that famous. |
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lemak
Joined: 02 Jan 2011
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:32 am Post subject: |
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The 2010s Asian version of Mark "Jacko" Jackson.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3h6pyZi88w
One of those embarrassing songs no one will admit to ever liking or listening to 6 months earlier and k-pop will fade back into it's plastic obscurity of effeminate girlie boys and borderline suicidal praying mantis-esque chicks. |
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Dave Chance
Joined: 30 May 2011
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| lemak wrote: |
The 2010s Asian version of Mark "Jacko" Jackson.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3h6pyZi88w
One of those embarrassing songs no one will admit to ever liking or listening to 6 months earlier and k-pop will fade back into it's plastic obscurity of effeminate girlie boys and borderline suicidal praying mantis-esque chicks. |
Research will be done and changes made to adapt.
Will all the considerable money and influence behind it, it won't go away that easily, if at all.
Additionally, foreign men are beginning in ever greater numbers to shift their yellow fever interests from Thai/Japanese to Korean (who is deemed attractive is a powerful driver of the skin-deep pop culture game), which is complemented by K-girls going ever more gaga over western guys.
As always, the potential for major gaffes is a wild card/x factor. |
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h20
Joined: 16 Sep 2012
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Pardon my unwillingness to read through ten pages of discussion, I may overlap with something already said.
Let's stop for a second here and note that this could actually be the most popular song in the past decades of pop music, if not human history. Correct me. Not saying the best song. Just the most popular. It came out two months ago. The YouTube video has 337 MILLION VIEWS as of October 2, 2012.
It's only possible because this is the 21st century with the ever-increasing globalization of the Internet. I think we should take a step back and notice how history's being made here, looking at the big picture. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| if you live in seoul or near seoul go down to City Hall plaza for the Psy concert on thursday. it;s free and starts at 9pm. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:58 am Post subject: |
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What the heck was that? That was a hit?
If I've ever liked that song, I've suppressed the memory. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| h20 wrote: |
Pardon my unwillingness to read through ten pages of discussion, I may overlap with something already said.
Let's stop for a second here and note that this could actually be the most popular song in the past decades of pop music, if not human history. Correct me. Not saying the best song. Just the most popular. It came out two months ago. The YouTube video has 337 MILLION VIEWS as of October 2, 2012.
It's only possible because this is the 21st century with the ever-increasing globalization of the Internet. I think we should take a step back and notice how history's being made here, looking at the big picture. |
And I read somewhere that he may have released it without copyrighting it, hoping fans would share it freely...which means all those spoof videos, the ones getting millions of hits, are earning quite a bit of money in Youtube ad revenue...which would explain, in part, why so many film school and music school student seem to be jumping on the bandwagon and releasing their own parody. The popularity of these parodies would serve to further increase the popularity of the original. |
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figshdg
Joined: 01 May 2012
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:23 am Post subject: |
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TaeKwonDo. |
I'd be willing to bet that if you asked your average person on the street in the west where it is from, they'd be more likely to say China or Japan. |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| lemak wrote: |
The 2010s Asian version of Mark "Jacko" Jackson.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3h6pyZi88w
One of those embarrassing songs no one will admit to ever liking or listening to 6 months earlier and k-pop will fade back into it's plastic obscurity of effeminate girlie boys and borderline suicidal praying mantis-esque chicks. |
1. Jacko was a good football player.
2. He was ahead of his time.
3. It wasn't the song or the singer that made it a hit. It was a parody of trade unionism. We were all sick of them and their strikes. We were glad at last somebody said something.
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The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
What the heck was that? That was a hit?
If I've ever liked that song, I've suppressed the memory. |
This is the first I've ever heard of him or this song.
Perhaps an Australian hit? |
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Dave Chance
Joined: 30 May 2011
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:17 am Post subject: |
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http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/08/121008fa_fact_seabrook#ixzz28GQRKgjY
The Korean government has promoted hallyu, using it as a form of �soft power,� by making South Korea the Hollywood of Asia. Hallyu has erased South Korea�s regional reputation as a brutish emerging industrial nation where everything smelled of garlic and kimchee, and replaced it with images of prosperous, cosmopolitan life.
In addition to singing and dancing, the idols study acting and foreign languages�Japanese, Chinese, and English. They also receive media coaching and are readied for the intense scrutiny they will receive on the Internet from the �netizens� of Korea, the most wired country on earth. (�Netizens Love Seohyun�s Aegyo Mark� declared a recent headline from the K-pop Web site Soompi, regarding the small beauty dot to the left of the singer�s eye.) Unless you�re the Jonas Brothers or Taylor Swift, public drunkenness, brawling, and serial misbehavior can often enhance an artist�s reputation in the American pop scene; in Korea, a rumored sex tape or a positive test for marijuana can derail a career. On average, only one in ten trainees makes it all the way to a d�but.
The groups are put together by the heads of the agencies, according to an alchemy of individual and collective qualities. �The members of a group shouldn�t be completely alike and indistinguishable,� Melody Kim, a community manager at Soompi, told me, �but they should be complementary enough so that together they form a really great, cohesive whole.�
The charts change rapidly, and, because youth and novelty are at such a premium, established groups usually don�t last long: five years is the average shelf life of an idol. (Some idols extend their careers by acting in K-dramas.) New groups appear regularly; in 2011, about sixty groups made d�buts, an unprecedented number. Only a fraction are likely to last; most will fade away after a couple of songs.
Good looks are a K-pop artist�s stock-in-trade. Although some of the idols are musicians, K-pop artists rarely play instruments onstage. Where K-pop stars excel is in sheer physical beauty. Their faces, chiselled, sculpted, and tapering to a sharp point at the chin, Na�vi style, look strikingly different from the flat, round faces of most Koreans. Some were born with this bone structure, no doubt, but many can look this way only with the help of plastic surgery. Korea is by far the world leader in procedures per capita, according to The Economist. Double-fold-eyelid surgery, which makes eyes look more Western, is a popular reward for children who get good marks on school exams.
Lee Soo-man, S.M.�s founder�people in the company refer to him as Chairman Lee�is K-pop�s master architect.
In 1985, Lee received his degree, and, he told Russell, he returned home determined to �replicate U.S. entertainment in Korea.� |
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teachergame
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Moondoggy wrote: |
| if you live in seoul or near seoul go down to City Hall plaza for the Psy concert on thursday. it;s free and starts at 9pm. |
I'd sooner put a gun to my head. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| So many bitter haters ITT. |
I'm not a hater, but after living here for 10 years, it's rather embarrassing to see the country hang its international self-worth on foreign impressions of Kimchi, Dokdo, and a blocky ajoshi dancing like a nerd to Kangnam Style.
My coworker's husband is a top producer for dramas in Korea, and knows Psy. He's a good guy, from what I hear, so nothing against him personally. His song is sort of poking fun at similar Korean traits, anyway. |
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