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newb
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 Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject: PS: Co-teaching with "Contracted" Korean English T |
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Just wondering if there are other NETs who are co-teaching with a "contracted" Korean English Teacher and what you're experiences have been in the classroom.
My experience is that he speaks English well above any other Korean teachers. But when it comes to teaching in the classroom, he speaks Korean 90% of the time while teaching. Only occassionally he would throw in Engllish words here and there. Although we have a sound working relationship, I sense the resentment from him when he brings up the issues of pay and benefit which I refuse to discuss with him by telling him it is inappropriate. |
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YTMND
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Only occassionally he would throw in Engllish words here and there. |
You have the wrong understanding of his job. He is not the mirror image of you. His job is to explain English to students and not represent it. It's your job to represent English and not explain it.
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| I sense the resentment from him when he brings up the issues of pay and benefit which I refuse to discuss with him by telling him it is inappropriate |
He is frustrated because he has reached a plateau where he can't advance any further due to his nationality. He should be looking for work in a different field. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
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| I worked with one for a year. She was, by far, the best coteacher that I had. She was motivated, used modern techniques, friendly, and, with her, we actually worked together and split each class in half, timewise, so each of us took the lead for half of the time, with the other supporting. She spoke Korean about half of the time. I recorded it once, out of curiosity. If all of my coteachers had been like her, I'd still be working at public school. |
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newb
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Only occassionally he would throw in Engllish words here and there. |
You have the wrong understanding of his job. He is not the mirror image of you. His job is to explain English to students and not represent it. It's your job to represent English and not explain it.
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| I sense the resentment from him when he brings up the issues of pay and benefit which I refuse to discuss with him by telling him it is inappropriate |
He is frustrated because he has reached a plateau where he can't advance any further due to his nationality. He should be looking for work in a different field. |
I had the right approach in the beginning as you mentioned. Also suggested that we do 50/50 approach, but he just wants to do it his way and I do mine. I didn't want to get the office politics getting involved so I teach two sub-lessons by myself while he sits back and does nothing and I do the same for the next two sub-lessons. I just don't think it's very effective way to teach the students this way, but what can I do?
And with regards to his Korean nationality frustration, I think you're right. He may have somehow found out that I am clearing well over 3 mil (including afterschool overtime) + benefits so it's gotten his blood boiling. |
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No_hite_pls
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| newb wrote: |
| YTMND wrote: |
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| Only occassionally he would throw in Engllish words here and there. |
You have the wrong understanding of his job. He is not the mirror image of you. His job is to explain English to students and not represent it. It's your job to represent English and not explain it.
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| I sense the resentment from him when he brings up the issues of pay and benefit which I refuse to discuss with him by telling him it is inappropriate |
He is frustrated because he has reached a plateau where he can't advance any further due to his nationality. He should be looking for work in a different field. |
I had the right approach in the beginning as you mentioned. Also suggested that we do 50/50 approach, but he just wants to do it his way and I do mine. I didn't want to get the office politics getting involved so I teach two sub-lessons by myself while he sits back and does nothing and I do the same for the next two sub-lessons. I just don't think it's very effective way to teach the students this way, but what can I do?
And with regards to his Korean nationality frustration, I think you're right. He may have somehow found out that I am clearing well over 3 mil (including afterschool overtime) + benefits so it's gotten his blood boiling. |
Most Korean contract teachers I know make between 3 and 4 million with overtime, and bonuses (chuseok and solar). I even know one that makes more than 5 million a month (she does a lot of overtime at her school). They make 60,000 to 70,000 won per overtime class unlike the 20,000 that foreigners will usually get. I also know one foreigner who only got paid 6,000 won for overtime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq8N2jG-iL8 |
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No_hite_pls
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| it's gotten his blood boiling. |
Sometimes it's just the fact that there is foreigner at their school that gets his blood boiling. Even if you were making 1 million month (less than legal minimum wage) he probably think you were making too much. |
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newb
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| No_hite_pls wrote: |
Most Korean contract teachers I know make between 3 and 4 million with overtime, and bonuses (chuseok and solar). I even know one that makes more than 5 million a month (she does a lot of overtime at her school). They make 60,000 to 70,000 won per overtime class unlike the 20,000 that foreigners will usually get. I also know one foreigner who only got paid 6,000 won for overtime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq8N2jG-iL8 |
Thanks for the laugh.
I hope he does make more than I do for peace and his sanity. |
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YTMND
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| Also suggested that we do 50/50 approach, but he just wants to do it his way and I do mine. |
What do you mean 50/50? Together teach the whole class? I had 2 co-teachers at 2 public schools (one was an afterschool program). The first one acted like an interpreter, he disciplined the students and explained what I said and I planned the actual lessons (he sent stock lesson plans to the principal) and talked with the students. It seemed to work fairly well.
Then, I worked with another good co-teacher, but during work hours she didn't want to interact with me much. Anything that had to be done would be split up between us in a very business like manner. However, at the end of the day we would walk to the station and talk on the subway. Seemed like 2 completely different people. |
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newb
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| Also suggested that we do 50/50 approach, but he just wants to do it his way and I do mine. |
What do you mean 50/50? Together teach the whole class? I had 2 co-teachers at 2 public schools (one was an afterschool program). The first one acted like an interpreter, he disciplined the students and explained what I said and I planned the actual lessons (he sent stock lesson plans to the principal) and talked with the students. It seemed to work fairly well.
Then, I worked with another good co-teacher, but during work hours she didn't want to interact with me much. Anything that had to be done would be split up between us in a very business like manner. However, at the end of the day we would walk to the station and talk on the subway. Seemed like 2 completely different people. |
My 50/50 meant that both will be teaching the same sub-lesson. But each of us will be in charge for approximately 20 minutes of lesson while the other will be on support (translating, pronunciation correction, assisting, encouraging students, disciplining, etc.). It used to work really well before when I was teaching with previous licensed co-teacher. She has tranferred to another school and now I have a sour grape. |
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