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Joined: 03 Sep 2012
Location: Busan
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 Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:29 pm Post subject: Treading on dangerous ground? Advice? |
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| So I've been out here about two months, loving Korea, having an absolutely wonderful time. I met a great gal out here and things have been going pretty well. Recently she asked me if I could help her little brother with speaking English. Now I don't mind, it would be kinda fun and it's good auspices under which I'd be getting to know her family, she said they'd make me dinner and it all sounds very nice. On the other hand I've read and heard a lot about people being very nervous about breaching their contract with this sort of thing. I know it seems ridiculous but so did a lot of the paper work issues and 3.5x4.5 mug shots the education office requested. I've just heard a lot of strange stories about people running a-fowl of immigration out here and I wanted to know if anyone has had any experience with people asking for help with English on their off time. I'm not getting paid for it and it's really just more of a friendly thing to do the way I see it, but I have one other cause for concern. Her mother seems very nice, I don't know her father but they are rather well to do and he's running for office this election cycle for the national legislature. I understand he is rather conservative and I imagine he might not be too keen on some white boy coming after his little girl. He's also a gov. prosecutor so I wouldn't want to toe over the line if he decides not to like me. Any thoughts? |
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ajosshi
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: ajosshi.com
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't worry about it. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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If you don't get paid in cash then you are not working a second job.
You're afraid of making connection with rich and powerful? Take some self-esteem pills. Take all the right steps and make yourself into a valuable commodity. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
If you don't get paid in cash then you are not working a second job.
You're afraid of making connection with rich and powerful? Take some self-esteem pills. Take all the right steps and make yourself into a valuable commodity. |
+1
On the other hand, if things go bad with the girl, the dad could also become your worst enemy. So yeah, for sure "take all the right steps" here.
Also, you'll likely be introduced as just a "friend". Don't worry about that label, it could take a very long time before you are upgraded (downgraded?) to the official title of "boyfriend", especially if it's a conservative family.
Just smile and play the "friend" role until further notified. They may suspect you are a boyfriend but probably won't bring it up. The truth is bent and suppressed here constantly and there is a lot of song and dance to cover up what's really going on. That's not always a bad thing, so just be careful and see where it goes. |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Whenever there is a chick involved it is always dangerous ground. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Treading on dangerous ground? Advice? |
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| This guy wrote: |
| I've just heard a lot of strange stories about people running a-fowl of immigration out here |
This is a valid concern. Korean Immigration really hates it when people run over their birds. |
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McSalty
Joined: 14 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| What's illegal is working paid private lessons while on an E2 visa. What you're doing is volunteering. You have nothing to worry about. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
If you don't get paid in cash then you are not working a second job.
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It not the second job, it's that he can't teach english anywhere else or to any other students. There is some risk. If immigration somehow hears about it they might brush it off or they might go after you simply because your breaking the law with all the consequences, possible firing, heavy fines. Who knows? I think probably nothing will happen but make sure you keep on good terms with your Korean friend and make sure nobody else knows and it isn't talked about. |
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NilesQ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: |
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If anything, the fact that her dad is a somebody guarentees you immunity as long as he wants you to have it. I used to teach the daughter of a Seoul Police Detective. He told me not to worry about immigration  |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| McSalty wrote: |
| What's illegal is working paid private lessons while on an E2 visa. What you're doing is volunteering. You have nothing to worry about. |
Technically, volunteering is illegal on an E-2 visa as well.
I've personally known two people who were deported for volunteering. They were volunteering at an orphanage.
But in the instance the OP is talking about, they'd have a better chance of winning lotto, than they would busting you for it. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't worry about it. 10 years here, never seen anyone deported for private lessons that had a work visa (non-tourists). |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| Don't worry about it. 10 years here, never seen anyone deported for private lessons that had a work visa (non-tourists). |
Yeah ok so it does not happen right?
Seriously the odds may not be high but people do get busted, fined and sometimes deported for teaching privates. You even had some people busted, fined and deported for engaging in volunteer acitivities that violated their visa restrictions. |
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toddt82
Joined: 28 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:04 am Post subject: Re: Treading on dangerous ground? Advice? |
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| This guy wrote: |
| So I've been out here about two months, loving Korea, having an absolutely wonderful time. I met a great gal out here and things have been going pretty well. |
How did you meet your girlfriend? |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:07 am Post subject: Re: Treading on dangerous ground? Advice? |
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| This guy wrote: |
| So I've been out here about two months, loving Korea, having an absolutely wonderful time. I met a great gal out here and things have been going pretty well. Recently she asked me if I could help her little brother with speaking English. Now I don't mind... |
I'm gonna stop you right there. Don't be a tool. Don't be a tool. |
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tardisrider
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| a-fowl? afoul |
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