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El Exigente
Joined: 10 Sep 2010
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| Writing explicit letters to a child is illegal if the court system deems it to be so, just as smoking marijuana is illegal in California if the Feds decide to ignore state law. Law is not sacrosant it's political. 14 years may or may not be fair, and the law may or may not be just. |
You got that bass-ackwards. That is not the rule of law. By your reasoning no one can ever know if doing something is a crime until a jury returns a verdict.
There is no law against letter-writing, even pedophilic letter-writing. But a court can find you guilty anyway? Bizarre.
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| Exigente, make a case for why a grown ass man should not be punished for writing letters to an 8 year old about oral sex then. |
What a bizarre question! For you kissing is oral sex??? Anyway, if he was an ass man, why would he writing about oral sex? (I have a feeling you meant that question differently.)
Due process requires a harmed party in court. There is no evidence that the girl was harmed by the letters. Thus, the citizen cannot be constitutionally deprived of his freedom. |
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Space Bar
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
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Wrestling move now sex crime
Buchanan High athlete faces trial on a charge of sexual battery.
Posted at 01:00 AM on Sunday, Dec. 05, 2010
By Pablo Lopez and Nick Giannandrea / The Fresno Bee
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In a crowded gym during practice in front of parents and coaches, the Buchanan High School wrestler tackled a teammate and executed a move his coaches taught him.
He inserted his fingers between the boy's buttocks.
It's called the "butt drag," in which a wrestler grabs a rival's butt cheek and puts fingers in the anus to get leverage. The move is widely used at matches around the country and has been around for decades.
But now it is at the center of an uproar after Buchanan High wrestler Preston Hill was expelled and charged with a sex crime for using it on a teammate.
"It just doesn't make sense," said Preston's father, Darren Hill. "His coaches taught him the move when he was in middle school. All the wrestlers use it and my son did it in front of his coaches at a school-sponsored event." |
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Space Bar
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
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Another case of possible decades in prison without an actual child being harmed.
What Kind of a Sick Mind Calls This Child Porn?
February 18, 2011 by Dr. Marty Klein
The internet has given anti-sex lawmakers the opportunity to create entire new classes of crime. Predictably, petty bureaucrats are seizing these laws to go after an assortment of �perpetrators,� no matter how trivial, petty, or pointless their �crime.�
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Now we come to the bizarre case of Evan Emory, a Michigan man facing 20 years in jail for a prank that has a whole town quaking with indignation, even though no one can point to any actual harm done to any actual humans.
Last month, Evan sang �Lunch Lady Land� and, with school permission, videotaped the event. So far, everyone wins.
This stupid jackass goes home, edits the video, and splices in shots of himself singing sexually explicit lyrics, so it looks like he�s singing that to the kiddies. The lyrics, by the way, are not about them. He apparently thinks it�s hilarious�sophomoric humor on steroids. Three days ago he puts it up on YouTube with the disclaimer that �no actual children have been exposed� to the song.
A mommy finds out and goes ballistic, saying her child has been �humiliated.� She tells the principal. The principal says he�s �outraged at the �perverted� clip made for �personal gratification.� He calls in the law. The law puts him behind bars for�and this is the crucial part, so pay attention��manufacturing child sexually abusive material.�
Yes. He�s facing 20 years in jail�more than many child molesters and even second-degree murderers get�for creating (not selling) a You Tube clip that deliberately gives the appearance of singing a dirty song to a bunch of 6-year-olds.
He�s not charged with invasion of privacy, or trespassing on school property, or of being an immature butthole. He�s charged with �manufacturing child sexually abusive material.� Those not familiar with the Michigan vernacular can just substitute the magic words �manufacturing child porn.�
Which child was sexually abused? None.
What harm has any child experienced? None.
If any child has been �harmed,� has that child been �sexually abused?� No.
Think of it: if it were your child, and if you were angry about this, would you say that what this character did was equivalent to �sexual abuse,� or to starring your kid in child porn? Anyone who says yes doesn�t know anything about the dreadful realities of actual sexual abuse or child porn.
But why care about actual children when you can score political points, career points, or points with your God, raving about non-existent events creating non-existent harm? This school principal is either terrified of dirty words or cynically calculating about making himself a hero. And the prosecutor is either completely clueless about what real crime looks like, or he�s eager to prove what a powerful tyrant he can be.
Either way, both the principal and the prosecutor are far more dangerous to little Sallie and Juan than the dumbass Evan Emory. Parents should be annoyed at what Evan did. They should be outraged about what the principal and prosecutor did, and demand their resignations. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Wrestling move now sex crime
Buchanan High athlete faces trial on a charge of sexual battery.
Posted at 01:00 AM on Sunday, Dec. 05, 2010
By Pablo Lopez and Nick Giannandrea / The Fresno Bee
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In a crowded gym during practice in front of parents and coaches, the Buchanan High School wrestler tackled a teammate and executed a move his coaches taught him.
He inserted his fingers between the boy's buttocks.
It's called the "butt drag," in which a wrestler grabs a rival's butt cheek and puts fingers in the anus to get leverage. The move is widely used at matches around the country and has been around for decades.
But now it is at the center of an uproar after Buchanan High wrestler Preston Hill was expelled and charged with a sex crime for using it on a teammate.
"It just doesn't make sense," said Preston's father, Darren Hill. "His coaches taught him the move when he was in middle school. All the wrestlers use it and my son did it in front of his coaches at a school-sponsored event." |
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If they want to ban it, fine. But no need to run this kid through the ringer. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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There should be a disclaimer for the kids and parents to sign.
"Your kid, the wrestler, may occasionally be getting a finger in his butt. His anal orifice may be used for leverage.
Sign here:" |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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"A former cheerleader for the Cincinnati Bengals apparently has reached a plea deal in the sex abuse case against her.
"Multiple media outlets in the Cincinnati area report that the former cheerleader is charged with having sex with a 17-year-old student when she was a teacher in northern Kentucky. She will be in court Monday in northern Kentucky.
"An attorney for Sarah Jones tells WCPO-TV that she will accept a plea deal. But her attorney isn't giving details on the agreement."
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/former-cincinnati-bengals-cheerleader-reaches-plea-deal-in-sex-abuse-case-100712 |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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pics of the ex-cheerleader:
http://tinyurl.com/9lfe4yl
Not that she was all that before, but her best days are clearly behind her. Still, I'm sure at 17 I would've hit it. |
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