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evansmug



Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Beverly, Mass.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: EPIK denied: No clue why...what do I do now? Reply with quote

The subject says it all, and I'm just as baffled.

Hello to everyone here. My name's Evan, and I'm eager to teach in Korea for a multitude of reasons -- none so large as my desire to immerse myself in the Korean culture and to get my feet wet with teaching.

I have a BA in English, and very soon, a matter of weeks actually, I'll have an MA in English. I don't have an ESL certificate and I have no teaching experience, but I was told, and read, that these are not requisites. I'm healthy, optimistic, and eager, yet, for whatever reason, following an interview with Epik, I received an email saying that I was denied...I will admit that it was quite crushing news; teaching in Korea has been my objective for a while now, and I was holding out that Epik would be my backbone for such a venture.

I'm guessing that it had to do with my interview? Perhaps I answered something poorly? I'm not sure. I went into the interview with great passion and energy, especially so considering I had been up for 20 hours at that point, and coming off a day of masonry work that began at 5:30am -- my interview was conducted at 10pm EST.

So, basically, even after such a dismal break, I don't want to give up. I found WorknPlay Consulting and sent them information concerning finding a recruiter. I've yet to hear back from them, which, as you can imagine, is quite frustrating given that time is certainly of the essence.

Basically, any and all help and info would be greatly appreciated. Teaching in Korea is a goal of mine; not a passing interest.

Thanks, everyone.

Warmly,
Evan


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ren546



Joined: 17 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your subject does seem to indicate why you may have been rejected (now/know).

You probably answered one of their questions in the wrong way. It happens to a lot of people if they are unfamiliar with the Korean context. It happened to me with one recruiter (apparently I wasn't bubbly enough).
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english_prospect



Joined: 21 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There could be many reasons, not all of them logical, so it's best not to stew on it.

You're qualified to get 'a' job in Korea. You can try another area's public school system or go for a hagwon. Check the job page on here and contact all recruiters with your preferences and scans of your documents (assuming you have them). No need to limit yourself to one recruiter.

Also post your resume on here. You will get a lot of emails.

Hope that helps
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xihtug



Joined: 14 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you're more than qualified for getting employment in Korea. Just apply to every job you see. You did poorly for your interview most likely, and you might have a mistake in another. But after that, it's just a numbers game. Remember that EPIK is not the only employment in Korea.
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evansmug



Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Beverly, Mass.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ren546 wrote:
Your subject does seem to indicate why you may have been rejected (now/know).

You probably answered one of their questions in the wrong way. It happens to a lot of people if they are unfamiliar with the Korean context. It happened to me with one recruiter (apparently I wasn't bubbly enough).


Touche. My apologies - I was in a rush. I attest that I am normally much more grammar-sensitive.

Not bubbly enough? Huh. That seems like an awfully contrived excuse. I can only assume that such a reason didn't keep you from moving forward.
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evansmug



Joined: 28 May 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

english_prospect wrote:
There could be many reasons, not all of them logical, so it's best not to stew on it.

You're qualified to get 'a' job in Korea. You can try another area's public school system or go for a hagwon. Check the job page on here and contact all recruiters with your preferences and scans of your documents (assuming you have them). No need to limit yourself to one recruiter.

Also post your resume on here. You will get a lot of emails.

Hope that helps


Thanks, and I've been trying not to stew on it -- you try and be so careful, and yet, it doesn't matter for one reason or another. Epik's policy for not giving reason(s) for an application denial is a bit unfair; it'd be nice to know where you went astray during the process.

Thank you very much for the info -- I'll certainly post my resume asap.
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evansmug



Joined: 28 May 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xihtug wrote:
I'm sure you're more than qualified for getting employment in Korea. Just apply to every job you see. You did poorly for your interview most likely, and you might have a mistake in another. But after that, it's just a numbers game. Remember that EPIK is not the only employment in Korea.


Thanks for the encouragement -- it's truly much-appreciated. I will certainly keep applying, but I'm wondering which prgrams are the best...? I'm much more interested in teaching in a public school -- does anyone know of any other recruiters or programs that are hiring/highly touted?
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xihtug



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not know about trying for a non-EPIK position (I'm a newbie here myself. Haven't interviewed yet, hopefully soon because the stress is killing me).

My plan of action if I do not get in is to just look at the job postings here and e-mail out recruiters. The one thing I've learned from this site (well, I've learned many things but this is definitely the take-away) is to always ask for a contact e-mail of an English teacher already there so you can ask them how the job is.
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evansmug



Joined: 28 May 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xihtug wrote:
I do not know about trying for a non-EPIK position (I'm a newbie here myself. Haven't interviewed yet, hopefully soon because the stress is killing me).

My plan of action if I do not get in is to just look at the job postings here and e-mail out recruiters. The one thing I've learned from this site (well, I've learned many things but this is definitely the take-away) is to always ask for a contact e-mail of an English teacher already there so you can ask them how the job is.


Hey Xihtug,
Thanks for the tip. I'll absolutely ask for a contact email.
As for the Epik interview, be prepared for classroom questions like:
- what do you do if there's a disruptive student?
- what if certain students have a stronger skill-set and begin complaining that they aren't being challenged, what do you do?

And then others like:
- why did you choose Korea?
- if you don't have much teaching experience, why would you be a good fit?
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Basically, any and all help and info would be greatly appreciated. Teaching in Korea is a goal of mine; not a passing interest.


If you have more than a passing interest in teaching English you would have got some kind of qualification in it wouldn't you. That's what I'd be thinking. The no experience or qualifications thing is just to cover themselves when recruitment was hard and might be hard again. At the moment it's an employer's market so they can be a bit more fussy.
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mcloo7



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not try for GEPIK? I'm not sure if you can apply if you've been denied by EPIK, but I don't know that you can't, so maybe someone else can chime in on that. GEPIK pays better anyway, from what I've seen. I think their deadline is later too.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few different areas of Korea which don't use EPIK to hire their foreign teachers for public schools. Try to find out which places they are, and if you can see yourself living in one of those places for a year- apply. Skim through job ad lists for public school positions and you'll find them
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evansmug



Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Beverly, Mass.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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Basically, any and all help and info would be greatly appreciated. Teaching in Korea is a goal of mine; not a passing interest.


If you have more than a passing interest in teaching English you would have got some kind of qualification in it wouldn't you. That's what I'd be thinking. The no experience or qualifications thing is just to cover themselves when recruitment was hard and might be hard again. At the moment it's an employer's market so they can be a bit more fussy.


I hear you, but with money as it is, the financial pangs of an M.A. are still eating away at my account. Once things have settled, and increased, than I'll be able to get an ESL certificate.

A pair of English degrees seems like a 'qualified' starting point to me -- also seems quite unfair for them not to disclose why candidates aren't chosen; especially considering all the time and effort it took to fill out the application and retrieve the landslide of proper documents.

Gotta love the 'employer's market.'
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evansmug



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcloo7 wrote:
Why not try for GEPIK? I'm not sure if you can apply if you've been denied by EPIK, but I don't know that you can't, so maybe someone else can chime in on that. GEPIK pays better anyway, from what I've seen. I think their deadline is later too.


I'll give it a shot -- unless some advises me otherwise. Thanks!
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evansmug



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squire wrote:
There are a few different areas of Korea which don't use EPIK to hire their foreign teachers for public schools. Try to find out which places they are, and if you can see yourself living in one of those places for a year- apply. Skim through job ad lists for public school positions and you'll find them


Thanks, Squire. Will do.
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