Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

How "rural" is rural Korea?
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In rural Chungnam, rural enough that the closest town has 500 people in it and the largest city in the county is 15000 people. Also rural enough where all the toilets in the school are squat toilets. They can be very rural. All the rural schools that I saw were well equiped with interactive screens and English classrooms and textbooks. Even with very rural areas you can usually readily get to Seoul or Busan for the weekend.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Kimchifart



Joined: 15 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:


An area will have an ending:

If it is a -eup or -ri, then it might be too small of a city.
If it is a -gu, -gun, or -myeon, find out how close they are to major bus or train stations.

If it is a -dong, it is too small to judge. Ask for more information to get a bigger division.

If it is a -do or a -si, then it is too big to judge. Ask for more information to get a smaller division.


Wow, that's actually a really good way to break down the city/town situation here...OP...this!

I'm in a Ri, next to an Eup and yes, it's way too bloody small.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in two rural areas. Buyeo (60,000 in the whole county) and Haman, Gaya-eup (20,000). I enjoyed it but that was largely because I was married and my first year was pretty laid back. I got more vacation than the folks in city too. I believe that has changed. The negative things though...it's a pain to get into the city unless you go on the weekends. There are only Korean restaurants. This was fine in Buyeo but Haman didn't really have any great Korean restaurants. The supermarkets are totally Korean. No western food whatsoever and they didn't even have any imported beers. The public transportation was also a bit of a chore and I had to be picked up to go to some of my schools. Lastly, if you like going to the gym, then finding one can be a challenge. Buyeo had one but it was extremely poor and still rather expensive compared to the US. I don't think Haman even had one. If they did, it would probably have only a few treadmills and some weight machines.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchifart wrote:
YTMND wrote:


An area will have an ending:

If it is a -eup or -ri, then it might be too small of a city.
If it is a -gu, -gun, or -myeon, find out how close they are to major bus or train stations.

If it is a -dong, it is too small to judge. Ask for more information to get a bigger division.

If it is a -do or a -si, then it is too big to judge. Ask for more information to get a smaller division.


Wow, that's actually a really good way to break down the city/town situation here...OP...this!

I'm in a Ri, next to an Eup and yes, it's way too bloody small.


-Gun means county and it's broken into either -eup (county town) or myeon (under 10,000 town). Those are further divided into -ri (village). For instance, Haman-gun, Haman-myeon, Dohang-ri...

-Si (city) is broken into -dong (district) and Beon-ji. Beon-ji is going the way of the Dodo now that they have street signs.

Metropolitan cities are broken into -gu (Busan, Busanjin-gu) and further divided into -dong and Beonji.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The people in rural Korea are generally a lot nicer and friendlier than the people in Seoul, but the world is smaller and everyone will know everything about you.

For example, on Thursday after work, one of my students and his mother ended up behind me in the line at the grocery store. I was buying a bottle of Coke Zero. The next day, the student was telling the class I buy Cass beer. I chuckled and said it was Coke Zero. He explained the cashier at the supermarket told his mom I buy Cass beer all the time.

The only time I ever buy beer is Friday or Saturday, but the cashier is telling Koreans that I'm "always" buying beer and even letting them know my brand of choice.

Nonetheless, I still prefer rural Korea to Seoul.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jacksthirty



Joined: 30 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having lived in the cuntryside (typo intended Cool twice now, and also having lived in the city, a rural town is officially 'rural' when it does not have;

A cinema, and either a Homeplus, Emart, or Lotte Mart (Top Market is ok). Oh and a Wa bar as well!

Now I've never lived in a myeong or a ri (god forbid) but if your school is there you should be able to have an appartment in the nearest eup and commute from there everyday.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hank the Iconoclast wrote:
I lived in two rural areas. Buyeo (60,000 in the whole county) and Haman, Gaya-eup (20,000). I enjoyed it but that was largely because I was married and my first year was pretty laid back.


Buyeo was close to where I worked. My city was much more rural than Buyeo and there are a lot of positions where NET's will go to small towns much more rural than where I was.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many so called "rural areas" have modernized somewhat over the past few years. Nowadays, you'd have to live in a place of 30,000 or less to experience real inconvenience. But, when I first came here, I lived in an area of 85,000 and it was extremely inconvenient. It's probably what a town of 30,000 is today in that it lacked most amenities previously described, not many who could speak English, close mindedness, (0(k blocking, virtually no dating opportunities, boredom, not many foriegners, ect. All modern things like electricity and indoor plumbing will exist, a nice outdoor park of some sort, hiking trails, bus service, ect can be found in the countryside.

My old town of 85,000 now, since I left, has a BR, a Lotte Mart, a dunkin donuts, a Wa Bar, more foriegn selection, more foriegners, a handful more of people who can understand at least basic English, prob less (0(k blocking than before (though I imagine still some).

I'd say the further south you go the more "confucian" it will be in terms of obnoxious or arrogant attitudes from some older folks and some who just don't like foriegners. The closer to Seoul you are, the more modern and open minded it would be.

My experience was that some locals liked me until they saw me with a Korean girl. So, if you don't date Korean women, more people will like you in these places.

In my old town, I got lots of go home earlies and extra days off. But I think it's not like that anymore. The schools make the current teachers stay until 4:30. (I suspect the recession has made even rural areas less desperate than they were before.) It was the only incentive I had to stay in my old town was the extra free time. I'm in a much larger city now.

In a nutshell, stay out of towns of less than 40,000 people unless you have either slackness from your schools, a desire to be forced to learn more Korean, you like nature, or want to save money, ect. (Saving money means staying there and not going to Seoul every weekend.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
korwan



Joined: 24 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Buyeo. I have lived here for quite some time. Not so bad.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTMND wrote:
I suggest 1 hour from a major city and 40 minutes from the next. Seoul and Busan would be major cities. Incheon is not a major city. It is divided into groups, most of which is secondary in nature but 40 minutes from Seoul, so it's not an issue. There is one exception though. There is an area of Incheon where the airport is located. This area would constitute a reasonable place to live, but to go into Seoul or travel south would be an inconvenience. Your call. My solution would be to live near the airport line that connects Incheon to Gimpo and get the school to pay for commuting.

Stick to the west coast or south. If you really like coastal areas, consider up near the Yeongduk area. It has a San Francisco/Boston (Cape Cod) seacoast feel to it.

Size is not an easy concept to get down because the country is so small. You can go anywhere relatively easy. However, for convenience, factor in transportation routes. Just ask the school, "How would I get from my apartment to Seoul/Busan?"

Get the exact directions. How many buses? How many trains? If subway, how many transfers? Get the whole thing and base your decision from that. If you have to travel 1 hour or more (train/highway bus), and then take the bus for 30 more minutes, consider this entering the tiny parts. Here you will not get much variety in foods or products. Services will be either nonexistent or scaled down to the locals' preferences. These could be good points just as they could be bad. You can learn a lot of cultural things by just what one Korean does compared to another in a different area. When I was in Andong, they liked to add vinegar to their pepper paste. In Seoul, I was laughed at when I did that.

If you can get anywhere by using just one mode of transportation within 1.5 hours, then you are close enough to modern living. This won't guarantee the apartment is modern though, just that you will have reasonable time and distance to get anything.

An area will have an ending:

If it is a -eup or -ri, then it might be too small of a city.
If it is a -gu, -gun, or -myeon, find out how close they are to major bus or train stations.

If it is a -dong, it is too small to judge. Ask for more information to get a bigger division.

If it is a -do or a -si, then it is too big to judge. Ask for more information to get a smaller division.


You might not consider Incheon a major city but it ranks third in population. That's pretty major to me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whiteshoes wrote:
You'll have internet, indoor plumbing, and electricity anywhere you live in Korea.


In a rural area you're more likely to have no natural gas lines if you live in that community. It'll be heating oil for you instead (a bit expensive). I had to use heating oil for heat in my dwelling (other than that it was great). January, February (dead winter) I had to pay 80 US to just heat the room where I slept in to about 12 C.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
aqm22



Joined: 21 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Many so called "rural areas" have modernized somewhat over the past few years. Nowadays, you'd have to live in a place of 30,000 or less to experience real inconvenience. But, when I first came here, I lived in an area of 85,000 and it was extremely inconvenient. It's probably what a town of 30,000 is today in that it lacked most amenities previously described, not many who could speak English, close mindedness, (0(k blocking, virtually no dating opportunities, boredom, not many foriegners, ect. All modern things like electricity and indoor plumbing will exist, a nice outdoor park of some sort, hiking trails, bus service, ect can be found in the countryside.

My old town of 85,000 now, since I left, has a BR, a Lotte Mart, a dunkin donuts, a Wa Bar, more foriegn selection, more foriegners, a handful more of people who can understand at least basic English, prob less (0(k blocking than before (though I imagine still some).

I'd say the further south you go the more "confucian" it will be in terms of obnoxious or arrogant attitudes from some older folks and some who just don't like foriegners. The closer to Seoul you are, the more modern and open minded it would be.

My experience was that some locals liked me until they saw me with a Korean girl. So, if you don't date Korean women, more people will like you in these places.

In my old town, I got lots of go home earlies and extra days off. But I think it's not like that anymore. The schools make the current teachers stay until 4:30. (I suspect the recession has made even rural areas less desperate than they were before.) It was the only incentive I had to stay in my old town was the extra free time. I'm in a much larger city now.

In a nutshell, stay out of towns of less than 40,000 people unless you have either slackness from your schools, a desire to be forced to learn more Korean, you like nature, or want to save money, ect. (Saving money means staying there and not going to Seoul every weekend.)


Thanks for the detailed info. I'm not a fan of big city so being forced away from a modern city is not so bad IMO. Maybe heading out to the big city like Seoul once a month if I really crave or need something. I like nature, and yes I want to have to learn Korean while I'm there (I like learning new languages).

All in all, I like small/rural towns. The only thing I can't live without is electricity and Internet. If I have those two, there can be just me and a frog for all I care Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
aqm22



Joined: 21 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacksthirty wrote:
Having lived in the cuntryside (typo intended Cool twice now, and also having lived in the city, a rural town is officially 'rural' when it does not have;

A cinema, and either a Homeplus, Emart, or Lotte Mart (Top Market is ok). Oh and a Wa bar as well!


Now I've never lived in a myeong or a ri (god forbid) but if your school is there you should be able to have an appartment in the nearest eup and commute from there everyday.


lol, I can live without any and all of those things.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
aqm22



Joined: 21 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
whiteshoes wrote:
You'll have internet, indoor plumbing, and electricity anywhere you live in Korea.


In a rural area you're more likely to have no natural gas lines if you live in that community. It'll be heating oil for you instead (a bit expensive). I had to use heating oil for heat in my dwelling (other than that it was great). January, February (dead winter) I had to pay 80 US to just heat the room where I slept in to about 12 C.



Hmm, haven't thought about that. It might be a problem if I have to spend 80USD everyday for half a year to heat up a room....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
aqm22



Joined: 21 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
In rural Chungnam, rural enough that the closest town has 500 people in it and the largest city in the county is 15000 people. Also rural enough where all the toilets in the school are squat toilets. They can be very rural. All the rural schools that I saw were well equiped with interactive screens and English classrooms and textbooks. Even with very rural areas you can usually readily get to Seoul or Busan for the weekend.


Shocked squat toilets will be a major problem...I don't wanna go that far... Sad
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International