Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Swallowing my pride
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Tyshine



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Swallowing my pride Reply with quote

Looks like I am going to shallow my pride...I guess this is just a part of growing up, but my crazy coteacher is at it again.

I became good friends with another English teacher at my school. My coteacher did not like this, and asked we don't sit by each other at lunch or talk together. We thought this was silly and kept talking with one another. This infuriated her and she got into a shouting match with the other teacher. She even brought it to the vice principal who said she has no right to say where I sit or who I talk with. She didn't listen and demanded to the other teacher we do not talk. She agreed, but only to not cause more problems. My coteacher is notorious for causing big issues at the school and even other schools, and since nobody wants to deal with her they just lay down and accept her babyish attitude. She also might know the owner of the school, but I am not sure about that.

Well next week is testing so I am deskwarming. Another teacher asked me if I want to go on the Friday field trip and I said yes. She got approval from the principal, but this made my coteaher upset again. She is now saying I cannot go, and her approval is necessary first.

There are other issues, but she has made it so I can't even associate with best friend at my school. I feel like I am losing control when I see her and there is nothing I can do. The point of this rant is I feel Korea has beaten me down, and I just have to accept whatever crap she throws my way. Would you do the same?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to hear you are having problems with your ko-teacher. I had problems with a ko-teacher a couple of years ago but stood my ground. It made things more difficult but I was taught to stand up for myself. It was tough and I ended up leaving early after being offered a job elsewhere. Years later I received an email from this teacher apologizing for her behavior. Perhaps it is the same teacher. Is she a single mother by any chance?

My advice would be to stand up for yourself. Don't argue with her, simply do what you want (within reason) and ignore her tantrums.

Good luck and keep your chin up. It won't last forever.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jealousy? You male and she female? Maybe there's some other reasons behind the scenes for the bitterness. See if you can figure it out. If she continues to harass you, go with the other teacher to the VP or P about it. Make sure the other teachers and all others like you first. Be prepared to rehearse this speaking point and be well prepared to make a case without being too negative. You said she has a bad reputation at her other schools and with other Koreans too? Make the case that everyone has to stand up to a bully. She might already be prepared to give you a bad review and look for excuses to try to get your contract non renewed. Often, it's not a real problem with your teaching. But she just wants you gone. So, staying quiet and hoping it will go away may or may not be the option. Make sure the principal and others are all on your side. I've seen quite a few POEs dropping teachers at contract renewal time and it was often a physco co-teacher. (Though I guess some NETs probably deserve to be dropped, too.)

What reason is she giving for not wanting you to talk to this other co teacher?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tyshine



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Jealousy? You male and she female? Maybe there's some other reasons behind the scenes for the bitterness. See if you can figure it out. If she continues to harass you, go with the other teacher to the VP or P about it. Make sure the other teachers and all others like you first. Be prepared to rehearse this speaking point and be well prepared to make a case without being too negative. You said she has a bad reputation at her other schools and with other Koreans too? Make the case that everyone has to stand up to a bully. She might already be prepared to give you a bad review and look for excuses to try to get your contract non renewed. Often, it's not a real problem with your teaching. But she just wants you gone. So, staying quiet and hoping it will go away may or may not be the option. Make sure the principal and others are all on your side. I've seen quite a few POEs dropping teachers at contract renewal time and it was often a physco co-teacher. (Though I guess some NETs probably deserve to be dropped, too.)

What reason is she giving for not wanting you to talk to this other co teacher?


All the other teachers like me. She is disliked by all, or at least most. You can see it, and I have heard stories from multiple sources. The thing is she likes me a lot, and I can probably fix this issue easily but my pride is getting in the way.

The reason she gave for us not sitting together is so other teachers can talk with me. The real reason is she is jealous I am friends with the other teacher, and not her. She basically said this much to the other teacher, and the VP said no teachers have complained about not being able to talk with me.

Luckily I do not want my contract renewed, but I have to finish. My GF is here too, and I have to consider her as well.


Last edited by Tyshine on Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tyshine



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
I'm sorry to hear you are having problems with your ko-teacher. I had problems with a ko-teacher a couple of years ago but stood my ground. It made things more difficult but I was taught to stand up for myself. It was tough and I ended up leaving early after being offered a job elsewhere. Years later I received an email from this teacher apologizing for her behavior. Perhaps it is the same teacher. Is she a single mother by any chance?

My advice would be to stand up for yourself. Don't argue with her, simply do what you want (within reason) and ignore her tantrums.

Good luck and keep your chin up. It won't last forever.


Not the same teacher, and good advice. I've stood my ground with her before and it just makes her angrier and more vindictive.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
My advice would be to stand up for yourself. Don't argue with her, simply do what you want (within reason) and ignore her tantrums.


This, 100%.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Not the same teacher, and good advice. I've stood my ground with her before and it just makes her angrier and more vindictive.


The darkest hour is often just before the dawn, my friend. Don't allow her negative actions to stop you doing what you know is perfectly acceptable behavior. She is a bully and the best thing you can do is to stand your ground. It may make your work life tougher but you'll have piece of mind that she can never take away.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tyshine



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post sorry

Last edited by Tyshine on Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:54 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tyshine



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stood my ground, and it went.... Terrible. She is now saying all the teachers are complaining about me as is the vice principal. She has done this with other teachers. She also is trying to say I need to stay at school until 5 ( I go 8-4) because lunch hour doesn't count as hours. She will spread her lies to the vice principal. She also says I must use all my free time searching for lessons, and her desk is right next to mine.

Oh she said I can't send texts in the office either. She sits in the back of my class and does nothing, and uses her phone.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The advise i'm about to give you is really NOT good advise, but i'll give you it anyway.....


But, oh before I start - I have a sneeky feeling that you're other teachers DO mind the fact that you left at 4pm everyday, whilst they were stuck there until 5pm!

So maybe you are not as well liked as you think!

But hey ho - here's what I MIGHT do in your situation.

Buy a small camera and covertly film her having there fits/OTT moments, catch her using her phone in class - then compile them into one 4-5 minute clip, and post it to the local and regional education offive (and of course you-tube) with a handy link on daves Razz

This of course will get you into HUGE trouble on so many levels - BUT is would be very funny too! Just don't include any of the children in it!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The advise i'm about to give you is really NOT good advise, but i'll give you it anyway.....


But, oh before I start - I have a sneeky feeling that you're other teachers DO mind the fact that you left at 4pm everyday, whilst they were stuck there until 5pm!

So maybe you are not as well liked as you think!

But hey ho - here's what I MIGHT do in your situation.

Buy a small camera and covertly film her having there fits/OTT moments, catch her using her phone in class - then compile them into one 4-5 minute clip, and post it to the local and regional education offive (and of course you-tube) with a handy link on daves Razz

This of course will get you into HUGE trouble on so many levels - BUT is would be very funny too! Just don't include any of the children in it!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only read the first few lines of your text. I was shocked at you saying she actutally told you you were not permitted to talk to someone. Who the hell does she think she is. I can't imagine someone saying that to me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tyshine



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucas wrote:
The advise i'm about to give you is really NOT good advise, but i'll give you it anyway.....


But, oh before I start - I have a sneeky feeling that you're other teachers DO mind the fact that you left at 4pm everyday, whilst they were stuck there until 5pm!

So maybe you are not as well liked as you think!

But hey ho - here's what I MIGHT do in your situation.

Buy a small camera and covertly film her having there fits/OTT moments, catch her using her phone in class - then compile them into one 4-5 minute clip, and post it to the local and regional education offive (and of course you-tube) with a handy link on daves Razz

This of course will get you into HUGE trouble on so many levels - BUT is would be very funny too! Just don't include any of the children in it!


I have HS and some teachers leave at 4 while most stay until 9. It would be funny, but ummm yeah no.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Stood my ground, and it went.... Terrible. She is now saying all the teachers are complaining about me as is the vice principal. She has done this with other teachers. She also is trying to say I need to stay at school until 5 ( I go 8-4) because lunch hour doesn't count as hours. She will spread her lies to the vice principal. She also says I must use all my free time searching for lessons, and her desk is right next to mine.

Oh she said I can't send texts in the office either. She sits in the back of my class and does nothing, and uses her phone.


She can say what she likes but she can't make you do anything. Leave at 4, text as much as you like in the office, and make sure your classes are as good as you can make them. If she gets angry and is abusive you should start videoing her with your phone. If she has a problem with your behavior then she can tell the vice principal. You can then tell the vice principal that she is acting inappropriately.

Word of warning - this only works if you are working hard and doing a good job in class. If you are lazy and a bad teacher then I suggest a different route.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore all of them. It just isn't worth the hassle.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 1 of 4

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International