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Seoul has been harrassing Costco
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Seoul has been harrassing Costco Reply with quote

The Seoul city government has been wrong about forcing large stores to close but since they lost the court case they've made it all about Costco and now they've taken it to a new level.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gcswd8rr6U7AKbdz_AVRg_oWoUWA?docId=CNG.3a157aed789648f0334d57b8b9cd82e7.281

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SEOUL � South Korean officials threatened stern action Thursday against retail giant Costco in an increasingly heated row over the US firm's refusal to shut its wholesale club stores on Sundays.

Nearly 40 Seoul council officials raided three Costco stores in the capital on Wednesday to crack down on minor parking and safety violations, in apparent reprisal for the retailer's non-adherence to Sunday closing rules.

Officials said they would conduct "more crackdowns" if Costco opened next Sunday.



I don't know about you but this has gotten ridiculous. How can they punish Costco when all of the other stores like Lottemart, E-Mart, and Homeplus, are open at the same time?

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No Costco spokesman was available for comment Thursday, but the company has argued that singling it out for Sunday closure after the court ruling violates "equal protection" principles.

"We should also be allowed to operate our warehouses on Sundays, just like all other large marts," Costco Wholesale Korea's country manager Preston Draper said on the firm's website last month.

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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this only a Seoul city thing, or a nationwide thing? Just wondering because Seoul does have a left leaning mayor.
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Is this only a Seoul city thing, or a nationwide thing? Just wondering because Seoul does have a left leaning mayor.


It is only Seoul. There have even been small protests by the usual groups of anti-American protesters.

http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2012/10/05/costco-vs-seoul-when-sunday-comes/



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http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2012/10/05/costco-vs-seoul-when-sunday-comes/#ixzz2945nBuYK


Civic groups already held a big rally in front of one of the retailer�s outlets in Seoul last week, protesting Costco�s flouting of the city�s ordinance to close every other Sunday. They plan to hold frequent demonstrations until the company abides by the controversial regulations restricting their operating hours.
�We strongly criticise foreign retail giants for their greed and ignorance of local laws,� a coalition of 520 civic groups said in a statement. �They are to blame for their activities against their social responsibility and economic democratisation.�
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One good example of why I was opposed to to the U.S, signing an FTA with Korea. Until Korea's markets are truly open, there's no reason the U.S. shouldn't shut its doors to Korean businesses.

What would be great is if the next time this happens they could identify the vehicles of the Seoul officials, which will more than likely all be illegally parked, and have them all towed. Turn about is fair play.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is what Seoul is doing legal? Imagine if we said that Samsung products can't be sold on Sundays in America. If the other big stores are open, there's no reason why Costco shouldn't be.
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Savant



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they [Seoul City Council] even have the Korean consumers' support in these actions. Koreans LOVE Costco and a lot of money flows through those stores on a daily basis.

So, fine them but it's small change really for Costco and good for Costco telling the Council to take it and shove it.

Although, I do dislike Costco for only accepting cards from their partners Samsung.
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radcon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disgusting behavior. But what is the staus of the law. It was passed at one time but has it been repealed?
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

radcon wrote:
Disgusting behavior. But what is the staus of the law. It was passed at one time but has it been repealed?


Yes. A Korean court has ruled the law to be invalid. But the Seoul city government insists that it still applies to only Costco. This Seoul Mayor has political allies in the "Death to America" community so he can score some cheap political points by targeting the US business community this way. The best way to show this political bully that you won't take his nonsense is to shop at Costco. I'll be the first one in the door at Costco next Sunday. I don't care how many protesters are outside. I want my bulgogi pizza and muffins the weekend after payday.
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dairyairy



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who don't know the Seoul Yanjae Costco had the biggest sales of any Costco in the world last year, at an estimated $450 million. That's a lot of pizza and muffins. I've seen lines to the back of the store. Do you know what that means? Koreans love Costco. Many Koreans are buying Costco goods and reselling them at a profit. The Seoul government is in the way of progress. Nobody is stopping this train for petty anti-American politics. Follow the money, in a positive way.
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atwood



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savant wrote:
I don't think they [Seoul City Council] even have the Korean consumers' support in these actions. Koreans LOVE Costco and a lot of money flows through those stores on a daily basis.

So, fine them but it's small change really for Costco and good for Costco telling the Council to take it and shove it.

Although, I do dislike Costco for only accepting cards from their partners Samsung.

They only accept AMEX in the U.S. It saves them money to deal with only one credit card company, savings they pass on to the customer. They're not partners with Samsung other than Samsung giving the best deal on credit card charges.
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think many of you are missing the point. Costco is willfully breaking the law and laughing at the fine imposed on them. Breaking the law and being disrespectful to authority isn't going to result in anything good.
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PEIGUY



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Omokgyo

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
I think many of you are missing the point. Costco is willfully breaking the law and laughing at the fine imposed on them. Breaking the law and being disrespectful to authority isn't going to result in anything good.


What law are they breaking? The law forcing the stores to close was overturned (for now I'm assuming). I know that Lotte etc were complaining that since Costco didn't participate in getting the law overturned for the time being that they shouldn't be allowed to open.
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motiontodismiss



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I liked the mayor, I think he's way over the line on this one. Costco seriously does more good for the community than pretty much Home Plus, Emart and Lotte Mart combined. The employees are paid good wages ( ~8k won an hour.....MUCH better than the other guys). ALL Costco employees are hired as permanent (regular) employees instead of some kind of contract or through some kind of an outsourcing company. They sell products for cheap (on a per-unit basis anyway). And most importantly, it's not just local consumers who shop there. There are tons of BUSINESS OWNERS who shop there too.

Plus closing Costco so that traditional markets don't go bust is ridiculous. Costco shoppers don't shop at traditional markets, and vice versa. And sometimes Costco SUPPLIES traditional market stalls.

That said, I'm going to Costco tomorrow, if only for the hot dog and churros.
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Dodge7



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get it. In Ilsan they are closed every other Sunday. Does the Seoul governing officials want them to be closed EVERY Sunday?
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

motiontodismiss wrote:
As much as I liked the mayor, I think he's way over the line on this one. Costco seriously does more good for the community than pretty much Home Plus, Emart and Lotte Mart combined. The employees are paid good wages ( ~8k won an hour.....MUCH better than the other guys). ALL Costco employees are hired as permanent (regular) employees instead of some kind of contract or through some kind of an outsourcing company. They sell products for cheap (on a per-unit basis anyway). And most importantly, it's not just local consumers who shop there. There are tons of BUSINESS OWNERS who shop there too.

Plus closing Costco so that traditional markets don't go bust is ridiculous. Costco shoppers don't shop at traditional markets, and vice versa. And sometimes Costco SUPPLIES traditional market stalls.

That said, I'm going to Costco tomorrow, if only for the hot dog and churros.


Do you work for Costco?
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