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What makes Korea a cool place to be these days?
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scorpion wrote:
JustinC wrote:
I love the rock scene here, bloody good guitar players everywhere


The most ridiculous post in the history of the internet.


Obviously open to debate. I have seen some technically amazing shredders here, but I personally find that stuff a real musical turn-off. Other fellas might think that is incredible, but playing a guitar well should mean more than just playing it quickly.
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PRagic



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea (Seoul, specifically), owing to Gangnam Style, was just the front page spread for the weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal. Lot's going on and, as others have posted, Seoul is one of the 'it' places to be in Asia right now.
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Dodge7



Joined: 21 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Korea (Seoul, specifically), owing to Gangnam Style, was just the front page spread for the weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal. Lot's going on and, as others have posted, Seoul is one of the 'it' places to be in Asia right now.

lol because of Gangnam Style. That's it. Otherwise, Seoul is the same bland, faceless, plain, conservative city it's always been. No one ever talked about Seoul before or gave much consideration to, and so it's something "new" to talk about.
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transmogrifier



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
PRagic wrote:
Korea (Seoul, specifically), owing to Gangnam Style, was just the front page spread for the weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal. Lot's going on and, as others have posted, Seoul is one of the 'it' places to be in Asia right now.

lol because of Gangnam Style. That's it. Otherwise, Seoul is the same bland, faceless, plain, conservative city it's always been. No one ever talked about Seoul before or gave much consideration to, and so it's something "new" to talk about.


It's only as bland as the life and friends you have made here.
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nero



Joined: 11 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

transmogrifier wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
PRagic wrote:
Korea (Seoul, specifically), owing to Gangnam Style, was just the front page spread for the weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal. Lot's going on and, as others have posted, Seoul is one of the 'it' places to be in Asia right now.

lol because of Gangnam Style. That's it. Otherwise, Seoul is the same bland, faceless, plain, conservative city it's always been. No one ever talked about Seoul before or gave much consideration to, and so it's something "new" to talk about.


It's only as bland as the life and friends you have made here.


Only a simpleton would believe that.
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transmogrifier



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nero wrote:
transmogrifier wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
PRagic wrote:
Korea (Seoul, specifically), owing to Gangnam Style, was just the front page spread for the weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal. Lot's going on and, as others have posted, Seoul is one of the 'it' places to be in Asia right now.

lol because of Gangnam Style. That's it. Otherwise, Seoul is the same bland, faceless, plain, conservative city it's always been. No one ever talked about Seoul before or gave much consideration to, and so it's something "new" to talk about.


It's only as bland as the life and friends you have made here.


Only a simpleton would believe that.


Believe what you like, mate.
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PRagic



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Seoul has been featured in several of the biggest papers in the U.S. as of late. And ask around; it is considered one of the 'in places to be' in Asia.

Seoul has come such a long way in the past 20 years. Like the country at large, it has a lot to offer, but like a previous poster mentioned, it is largely what you make of it. That is much the same as anywhere else.
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Scorpion



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not in Korea's interest that the West takes a longer, more sustained look at this place. They might not like what they uncover. If I were Korea I would gobble up the attention received by that silly, pathetic little song then step back out of the spotlight.
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nero



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

transmogrifier wrote:
nero wrote:
transmogrifier wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
PRagic wrote:
Korea (Seoul, specifically), owing to Gangnam Style, was just the front page spread for the weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal. Lot's going on and, as others have posted, Seoul is one of the 'it' places to be in Asia right now.

lol because of Gangnam Style. That's it. Otherwise, Seoul is the same bland, faceless, plain, conservative city it's always been. No one ever talked about Seoul before or gave much consideration to, and so it's something "new" to talk about.


It's only as bland as the life and friends you have made here.


Only a simpleton would believe that.


Believe what you like, mate.


Mate, you can make good friends in prison, too. Would you want to live there?
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transmogrifier



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nero wrote:

Mate, you can make good friends in prison, too. Would you want to live there?


I still don't see your point. If you honestly don't think it's possible to enjoy living in Seoul, then that's your problem, not mine. As I mentioned, I suggest finding more or better friends, a better job, or get out and do things, instead of moaning about the city on the Internet.

No-one is arguing that Seoul is the best city in the world, or in Asia, or maybe even in Korea. But there are plenty of opportunities to enjoy yourself, unless you are like some of the self-professed alpha males around here' who like to talk about how they would smash any Korean who tried to take them on, but at the same time do something a true alpha man would never dream of doing - going on the Internet and moaning like a little girl about their life.


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Dave Chance



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah Seoul can never measure up simply because everything's been lifted from other countries, from the Chinese architecture of its temples and gates to the Japanese-style department stores and on to the New York and Cali wanna-be stylings of Gangnam, never mind a church on every corner (and an evangelizer on every subway).

Getting to know some of the people is where you're more likely to find some depth.
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mike1two



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave Chance wrote:
Nah Seoul can never measure up simply because everything's been lifted from other countries, from the Chinese architecture of its temples and gates to the Japanese-style department stores and on to the New York and Cali wanna-be stylings of Gangnam, never mind a church on every corner (and an evangelizer on every subway).

Getting to know some of the people is where you're more likely to find some depth.


exactly. if you don't know koreans you really can't know anything about seoul. but many teachers walk around, go to their foreigner hangouts, eat at kimbap chungook and think they know a place. not hanging out with koreans will only expose you to things that koreans want you to know or what they think you will like.
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mike1two



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave Chance wrote:
Nah Seoul can never measure up simply because everything's been lifted from other countries, from the Chinese architecture of its temples and gates to the Japanese-style department stores and on to the New York and Cali wanna-be stylings of Gangnam, never mind a church on every corner (and an evangelizer on every subway).

Getting to know some of the people is where you're more likely to find some depth.


do you know anything about chinese and korean architecture or even japanese architecture?

you sound like every other disgruntled foreign teacher in korea that feels left out. you should just move back home.
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Dave Chance



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike1two wrote:
Dave Chance wrote:
Nah Seoul can never measure up simply because everything's been lifted from other countries, from the Chinese architecture of its temples and gates to the Japanese-style department stores and on to the New York and Cali wanna-be stylings of Gangnam, never mind a church on every corner (and an evangelizer on every subway).

Getting to know some of the people is where you're more likely to find some depth.


exactly. if you don't know koreans you really can't know anything about seoul. but many teachers walk around, go to their foreigner hangouts, eat at kimbap chungook and think they know a place. not hanging out with koreans will only expose you to things that koreans want you to know or what they think you will like.


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do you know anything about chinese and korean architecture or even japanese architecture?

you sound like every other disgruntled foreign teacher in korea that feels left out. you should just move back home.


Interesting mildly schizophrenic response, with failure to comprehend undertones.

Obviously someone who hasn't gotten to know the natives wouldn't have made the original statement above.

Although I like and appreciate the Koreans I've gotten to know, I prefer to keep an objective eye regarding over-hyped aspects of their culture. Maybe if they invested more of that energy to investigation and research and married it to a desire to make a distinctive statement they'd start producing something more engaging than the copy-cat cafes of Hongdae or underwhelming versions of sushi.

And yes I have studied the architecture, and lived for some time in Japan. There really is no comparison regarding variety and the sheer delight of fancy and thoughfulness that you'd see in Suzhou or Kyoto, and that's only one city from those respective countries.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MetaFitX wrote:
Off the top of my head:

-Korea today is what Japan was in the 80's and 90's. THE place to be in Asia. K-Pop is HUGELY popular in Asia and is increasingly popular elsewhere (where you at Gangnam Style haters???). Korean dramas are likewise just as popular.

-Korea's economic rise has seen its stature in world affairs grow as well. Heck, the last movie I seen (Bourne Legacy) had a portion of the movie shot in Seoul. Another movie coming out (Cloud Atlas) takes place in a futuristic high-tech Korea.

-Korean language is becoming more and more useful. I read a story a while back that said Korean is one of the, if not the most popular language to learn in Singapore now.

-Korea's economy continues to rise. While Japan is fading, Korea is rising.

Hallyu Wave!!

Looks like this dude changed his tune pretty quick. He went from apologist...
MetaFitX wrote:
The market is not "flooded".

...to realist in the span of just a few short weeks.
MetaFitX wrote:
2.3 for 6 days a week???

Is the economy THAT bad back home?? Good god...


MetaFitX wrote:
The state of EFL in Korea is declining year by year and will not better in the future (due to Korea's horrible birth-rate).

Look for greener pastures.


MetaFitX wrote:
Wow, Busan schools have been dropping like crazy lately. My contract finishes on Feb. 28th and not only will I not be replaced, but my school will actually close the following month due to no enrollment in next school year's kindie enrollment.

I think this has something to do with the government providing financial aid for students enrolled in Korean and not English kindie's, but I have noticed enrollment is way down in other places too. I know a few public school teachers will are unable to re-up at their current schools due to financial problems as well.

Busan's EFL market does NOT look good!


MetaFitX wrote:
Definitely the worst I've seen since I've arriving. Almost all of the jobs are 9-6/9-7 kindie/elementary. Lots of students have dropped due to the new gov't initiative and lots of schools have been closing.
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