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dluna



Joined: 17 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Low Hiring Season? Reply with quote

Hey Guys.
I have been applying like crazy, since mid August, and I am finding I am having an exceptionally hard time finding a teaching job right now. Is this typical of this time of year? One recruiter told me that the market is flooded, so the schools can choose to be picky with who they will hire. It could be me that I am picky, but it seems that the only jobs available are in inconvenient locations, or the hours are quite terrible. I know that FEB and August are the big hiring times, but this just seems impossible that I have not found a job yet. Granted, I am primarily looking to work in Seoul, but I never had this much difficulty in the past.

Anyone else experiencing anything similar to this? It's almost at the point now of getting a seasonal job in the US, and hedge my bets on a February opening.
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this typical of this time of year?


Typical for what? Public schools have already hired their teachers for the 2012-2013 school year. Language schools can take advantage of this and request more hours, more qualifications, and pay less.

Not typical in the sense I would want to start working any job in the beginning of winter, but it's not impossible.

Continue searching and perhaps you will find a good school who needs a teacher to replace the old one after their contract period is over.

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One recruiter told me that the market is flooded, so the schools can choose to be picky


It's more that people are not leaving their jobs than schools being picky. Even if you are at the end of a contract period now, you might want to extend your visa and quit 6 months later (or less).

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It's almost at the point now of getting a seasonal job in the US, and hedge my bets on a February opening.


Yea, that's what I would do. Move after winter when you are a spring pig, unless you are a southern type of person (you already mentioned Seoul though).
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Ranman



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're looking for just jobs in Seoul and Busan, then yes, you're going to have a hard time in regards of public schools. There are recruiters though that have openings year round. I highly recommend Alistair from Korean Horizons, as he is very professional, as long as you're upfront with him. That being said, you should also use as many recruiters you can until you find the job you're looking for.

If you look hard enough, you may find some openings before the Feb start, as long as you're not picky about location.
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jakesalva



Joined: 06 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey dluna. I know exactly how you feel. I am experiencing the same thing right now.

So your post makes me feel both better and worse!

I haven't been applying like crazy since August, but for approx a month.

I'm finding it surprisingly hard. It seems a lot tougher than last year and many recruiters have told me the market is very competitive right now.

I consider myself an above average candidate, and several recruiters have told me my CV/Resume is very impressive, but the offers just aren't coming through.

Also many recruiters have told me that Hagwon directors tend to have a preferce for N. American females. And the many job ads which state 'female wanted/preferred' seem to support this.

I think the reason the market is more competitive, is that due to the state of the economies back home, more people are both staying in Korea, and applying to go there.

TEFL teaching is becoming a more popular option every year.
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McSalty



Joined: 14 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitely an employers' market right now. Every job post you reply to, you're probably one of fifty. Due to the state of the economy, more teachers are staying in Korea, which means more competitive applicants who have several years teaching experience. The fact that SMOE is shutting down their native speaker programs in public middle and high schools doesn't help either.

It's a numbers game, so just keep applying to jobs. And it wouldn't hurt to dress up your resume, cover letter, and make sure your application photo is professional looking.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Low Hiring Season? Reply with quote

dluna wrote:
I know that FEB and August are the big hiring times, but this just seems impossible that I have not found a job yet.


Things improve a little in those two months but quickly return to the usual scarcity.

Korea will never be a good esl job market again. Its been "discovered".
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jakesalva



Joined: 06 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The fact that SMOE is shutting down their native speaker programs in public middle and high schools doesn't help either.


Yes, true. This is gonna make the private market even more competitive. I think the Public school system will be phased out competely within 5 years max.


Just saw this on a job ad for a hagwon in Ulsan:

"The teacher who can play football (soccer)"

Ha, guess it's my fault i'm struggling to find a position. I really should have brushed up on my soccer skills if I planned to teach English.
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Peter258



Joined: 18 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

people have been saying this every year for the past 5 or 6 years it seems.
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McSalty



Joined: 14 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter258 wrote:
people have been saying this every year for the past 5 or 6 years it seems.


Not surprising, considering we've been in a recession since 2008.
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FaceFaceFace



Joined: 12 Jun 2011
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, yes and yes to the sentiments expressed here!!

I have only been back home since August and it's been so hard even to get recruiters to get back to me most of the time.

It's definitely been harder since I did all this for the first time a year ago.

What I do now is scan the jobs here on Dave's, then Facebook, Craigslist, Google search and apply like crazy. It really is a number's game and there is a bit of tripe being tossed around. I'm also so over the whole "prefer North American female" tag-line at the end of most of the ads **rolls eyes**

It certainly helps if you have all your documents ready to roll and can interview or jump through whatever hoops at a moment's notice.

I've also noticed the jobs seem to be for Feb./March or ASAP, so for myself I changed my preference from Seoul in Feb and just went for wherever very soon. Depends what you want though and if you're prepared to hold out. It's such an employer's market right now!!!!!
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FaceFaceFace wrote:
It's such an employer's market right now!!!!!


Its been this bad since mid-2009 and is unlikely to change.

China is the place now.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Low Hiring Season? Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
dluna wrote:
I know that FEB and August are the big hiring times, but this just seems impossible that I have not found a job yet.


Things improve a little in those two months but quickly return to the usual scarcity.

Korea will never be a good esl job market again. Its been "discovered".


I disagree. There are good days ahead of us as long as the economy recovers back home. If it drags itself out for the rest of this decade, then yes, I will agree. I think in the 2020's, Korea will be like Japan. But, If a recovery happens in the next year or so, then Korea will still have some good times left. It may not be pre-2008 good, but much better than now.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Low Hiring Season? Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
nautilus wrote:
dluna wrote:
I know that FEB and August are the big hiring times, but this just seems impossible that I have not found a job yet.


Things improve a little in those two months but quickly return to the usual scarcity.

Korea will never be a good esl job market again. Its been "discovered".


I disagree. There are good days ahead of us as long as the economy recovers back home. If it drags itself out for the rest of this decade, then yes, I will agree. I think in the 2020's, Korea will be like Japan. But, If a recovery happens in the next year or so, then Korea will still have some good times left. It may not be pre-2008 good, but much better than now.


I agree with nautilus; going to where the [good] teachers are scarcer than the jobs available is worth looking into and also is one benefit of this gig over 99.9% of other jobs out there.
No one can put a date on when we're going to be out of this mess but there is some consensus:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=recession+until+2018
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Peter258



Joined: 18 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there should be a separate jobs board for "female only" postings.

and a separate board for all kindy jobs as well.

I'm so sick of having weeding through these kindy and "female only" posts.
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Patrick Murray



Joined: 01 Nov 2012

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a really helpful thread. I have been shootng out resumes to recruiters and schools like a madman since July. Ive been offered jobs in Asan, Ansan, Gumi, Cheongju, Gyeongju... I just accepted Cheongju today, as I am tired of waiting out for Seoul or Busan... I was not even able to land a single interview with those locations.

My plan is do a year in Cheongju, gain experience, gain Tefl Certification, beef up resume, then make the move to Seoul or Busan or at least cities outlining these two larger ones.

I start the Cheongju position two days before my 34th birthday, I am beyond ready to get out of N America right now, wish I would have made this move sooner in life... oh well, at least its happening NOW.

Japan use to be the place?
S Korea is no longer becoming the place?
China is the next big option


would that be a fair summation?
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