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mcloo7
Joined: 20 Aug 2012
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Thanks for the job post, McSalty. That one gave me a chuckle.
Yes, isitts, I consider 3 years plus to be "the long haul." As I mentioned, the CELTA is not, by any means, a standard for moving any farther than a hagwon or public school job paying at or around (at best -- slightly above) a base wage.
I'll state this more clearly so the newbees here can understand:
1. You want a job that gives you more than 1 to 2 weeks of vacation per year, teaching around 12 to 20 hours per week? You want a job that gives you 4 months + of PAID vacation? Get an MA and work for a university. A TEFL certification alone is almost never enough to get you a university job in Seoul anymore.
2. After 2 to 3 years of working here, do you want your base pay to rise above more than just 100,000 to 200,000 more than fresh-off-of-the-boat college grads? Get an MA and work for a university.
Or, you can get your CELTA and maybe get a job that provides astounding numbers like:
Working days: Monday to Friday
Working Time: 1:00pm to 9:00pm
Working Hours: 40 hrs / a week
Salary: 2.5M � 2.8M
Vacation: 3 days year (Not included Holidays)
http://koreajobfinder.com/jobs/cambridge-institute-is-looking-for-teachers/
Oh, and by the way, unless you are: British or Irish, and are married to a Korean with an F-2 or F-6, you don't even qualify for that. |
Does the MA have to be in ESL, or can it be any discipline, like history? |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:46 am Post subject: |
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These days, things are trending heavily toward needing an MA in Education (or Linguistics -- even better), but I still have friends floating around between schools who have an MA in whatever plus experience, and they do not seem to have issues with mid-level jobs and below. It seems like the top schools want an MA in Education, or a Ph.D.... honestly don't know anyone at a "top" school these days.
I will say that our school is becoming more hagwon-like every semester, although we still get the nice vacations and decent OT pay. Seems like more "requirements" and paperwork are cropping-up all of the time, unfortunately. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Guajiro wrote: |
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| Okay, Celta debate aside, any Tefl cert with at least 100 class hour will do for now? |
As I stated in a previous thread recently about TEFL certification, public schools in Korea are beginning to demand at least 20 in-class certification hours. This does not apply to hagwons, but according to the news section on the EPIK website:
"Greetings Prospective Applicants,
In recent terms, the application process has gradually become more competitive. At this point, it is almost impossible for level 3 applicants to secure a position with the EPIK program. As such, the most common way for level 3 applicants to increase their qualifications would be to enroll in a TEFL or TESOL course.
Currently, we accept a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL certificate as a qualification criteria for level 2 or higher pay grade, regardless of how the course was taken. However, starting from the Fall 2013 term, when we recommend candidates to the POE/MOEs we will give a priority to the applicants possessing a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL with at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component, as opposed to those who only completed a strictly online course. We strongly advise you to take the TEFL or TESOL programs including at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component. This decision was made to meet requests from the POE/MOEs and schools who wish to have the most qualified Guest English Teachers possible.
Thank you for your cooperation."
As others have said, a 120-hour certificate with at least 6 hours of observed teaching practicum is preferred in some regions (especially the Middle East, Western Europe, English-speaking countries). So if you're in it for the long haul a CELTA or Trinity TESOL type certificate is a good idea, in my opinion. If you want to work in public schools in Korea, a 100-hour certificate with at least 20 in-class hours seems to be sufficient. For hagwons, any old certificate will probably give you a leg up over candidates without. |
So, how does one do only 20 hours in class with the rest online? Silly requirement. Can you even take these 20 hours here in Korea? |
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Guajiro
Joined: 04 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Guajiro wrote: |
| aqm22 wrote: |
| Okay, Celta debate aside, any Tefl cert with at least 100 class hour will do for now? |
As I stated in a previous thread recently about TEFL certification, public schools in Korea are beginning to demand at least 20 in-class certification hours. This does not apply to hagwons, but according to the news section on the EPIK website:
"Greetings Prospective Applicants,
In recent terms, the application process has gradually become more competitive. At this point, it is almost impossible for level 3 applicants to secure a position with the EPIK program. As such, the most common way for level 3 applicants to increase their qualifications would be to enroll in a TEFL or TESOL course.
Currently, we accept a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL certificate as a qualification criteria for level 2 or higher pay grade, regardless of how the course was taken. However, starting from the Fall 2013 term, when we recommend candidates to the POE/MOEs we will give a priority to the applicants possessing a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL with at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component, as opposed to those who only completed a strictly online course. We strongly advise you to take the TEFL or TESOL programs including at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component. This decision was made to meet requests from the POE/MOEs and schools who wish to have the most qualified Guest English Teachers possible.
Thank you for your cooperation."
As others have said, a 120-hour certificate with at least 6 hours of observed teaching practicum is preferred in some regions (especially the Middle East, Western Europe, English-speaking countries). So if you're in it for the long haul a CELTA or Trinity TESOL type certificate is a good idea, in my opinion. If you want to work in public schools in Korea, a 100-hour certificate with at least 20 in-class hours seems to be sufficient. For hagwons, any old certificate will probably give you a leg up over candidates without. |
So, how does one do only 20 hours in class with the rest online? Silly requirement. Can you even take these 20 hours here in Korea? |
That I don't know... sorry. |
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