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F2-99 visa - 5 years continuous employment: advice please
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nick70100



Joined: 09 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel1981 wrote:
the visa names above are confusing


F-2-99 = 5 year continuous stay visa (7 years in the case of some visa types)

F-2-7 = points visa

(this thread is not about the points visa)

Daniel1981 wrote:

Just to be clear does the points visa require any amount of savings


No.

Daniel1981 wrote:
and any amount of income requirement?


You need some sort of income to earn points in the income category. Look at the point chart, it's pretty self-explanatory. The more money you earn the more points you get.

Daniel1981 wrote:
My understanding was there were no financial requirements other than the application fee, perhaps 100,000 won. [/b]


Application fee is 50,000. also must pay 10,000 for new ARC. (60,000 total)
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nick70100



Joined: 09 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegasus64128 wrote:
I always suspected that there would be Koreans having night fevers about whities getting F visas


Probably much less often than you think. On the rare occasion that they do have a night fever they're probably thinking about the Chinese and Southeast Asians, who get these visas in much greater numbers than whities. The average Korean probably doesn't even know much about immigration policy or have any idea what the difference is between an E visa and an F visa.


pegasus64128 wrote:
I can't see this F2-S visa lasting too long either. I almost had a heart attack when I saw that visa was in circulation. I still haven't heard of someone of non-Korean ethnicity getting one. Anyone?


Strange. I haven't heard of a signle person of Korean ethnicity getting one (why would they when they have the F-4 option?). On the other hand I know several non-Koreans who have done it. The requirements are fairly clear, and I haven't heard of a single person who met the requirements being turned down. I would go as far as saying the point system is easy. If you're under the age of 40 or so, speak Korean, have a bachelors degree, and do the social integration course you more or less qualify. Learning Korean takes time, but it's not a magic trick or anything. Anyone can do it with a bit of effort. And I don't blame Korea at all for expecting people who intend to reside here long-term to speak at least a bit of the local language.

The F-2-99 (back on subject) is a different beast entirely, and one I'm much less familiar with, but it seems that some of the posters here have been able to do it.

Looking at the immigration stats from July 2011 (most recent I can find) there were 137 F-2-7 (points) visa holders. I expect that number will increase significantly as time goes on and more people figure it out. There were 5,907 F-2-99 holders, which makes sense as it's been around a lot longer than the point system. There were also 14,000 F-5 holders who qualified through methods which did not involve being married to a Korean or being of Korean ethnicity. So plenty of people are doing it/have done it, and so far Korea hasn't collapsed into chaos or night terrors or whatever.
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Daniel1981



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Nick!
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TexasChicken wrote:
No the rules changed for the F2-99 it now has an income requirement. Call 1345. They have failed to update hikorea the immigration website despite changing the rules in April. Further more you must meet 2 of the 3 income requirements. 1.5 times the GNI, show more than 3000만원 in a Korean bank account with your name and or more than 3000 만원 in chonsae or wolsae from the realestate agency. Oh and TOPIK LVL 2.

The immigration officer seemed unsure of the exact gross national income of a korean person but he quoted me something like 3600만원 a year as the requirement. To pass the income requirement.

Dont worry im sure next year they will increase the requirements even further.


There's a shocker. They changed the reqs for a D8 in Oct 2010, the website still isn't updated. It's now 100 million, up from 50. How they don't update the website is beyond me.

So money and TOPIK is now a req. Looking more and more like the F5-A and the F2-7 :/

tiger fancini wrote:
She suggested that the Social Integration course provided by immigration (I think) would suffice instead of TOPIK level 2.


KIIP takes forever. First you take the entrance exam and HOPE that they open one in your area that you can attend with your schedule. And to go through the entire programmes, takes over a year.
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james peters



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:57 am    Post subject: f2-99 Reply with quote

i was told last week that the income requirement for f2-99 is now that you earn at least the Korean GNI.$23,000 US was mentioned.No need for 1.5 times that figure.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: f2-99 Reply with quote

james peters wrote:
i was told last week that the income requirement for f2-99 is now that you earn at least the Korean GNI.$23,000 US was mentioned.No need for 1.5 times that figure.


Being told one is one thing. Actually having it happen is another :/
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this Visa just a joke? Most E2's won't qualify for this.... I think I read somewhere even Ttompatz didn't qualify and he applied a couple of times? Been here for more than 5 years and never took it seriously.

Of course, I don't meet the savings requirements as I've been paying loans backhome forever with this new crappy exchange rate we've seen over the past four years. Wish I had of come here sooner when things were better, but that's the way it is.

Anyways, except for a few elite individuals is this really acheivable or is it just there for appearance sake? Thought I had read from others, a while back, here that K immi officers had admitted most won't get it.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Is this Visa just a joke? Most E2's won't qualify for this.... I think I read somewhere even Ttompatz didn't qualify and he applied a couple of times? Been here for more than 5 years and never took it seriously.

Of course, I don't meet the savings requirements as I've been paying loans backhome forever with this new crappy exchange rate we've seen over the past four years. Wish I had of come here sooner when things were better, but that's the way it is.

Anyways, except for a few elite individuals is this really acheivable or is it just there for appearance sake? Thought I had read from others, a while back, here that K immi officers had admitted most won't get it.

I don't think it existed when tttompatz applied. I think you should try. The Korean is what kills me, mine is non existent. It's hard to study, I' work all day and go home to an overactive baby.

It's achieveable. Mainly if you do the KIIP programme. For me it would takd 2.5 years. Bit of a joke. I tried to get into level ZERO and they said I had to take a test, but I wasn't in country at the time.
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Welshguy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Is this Visa just a joke? Most E2's won't qualify for this.... I think I read somewhere even Ttompatz didn't qualify and he applied a couple of times? Been here for more than 5 years and never took it seriously.

Of course, I don't meet the savings requirements as I've been paying loans backhome forever with this new crappy exchange rate we've seen over the past four years. Wish I had of come here sooner when things were better, but that's the way it is.

Anyways, except for a few elite individuals is this really acheivable or is it just there for appearance sake? Thought I had read from others, a while back, here that K immi officers had admitted most won't get it.


I got the F2-99 last year in January. I was on an E2 Visa.

Since then, two other people I know have obtained it.

2 Friends of mine are currently studying for the TOPIK test and will submit their application to Immigration early next year.

Not a pipe dream.
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pacificman



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious about what the definition of five (or seven in my case) years on "the same" visa actually means. I recently renewed my D-8 visa, and was shocked when they didn't give me a physical visa. I was told it was a new method, and my visa was "in the system". I interpreted this to mean they are now using electronic visas. This got me to asking whether the "renewed" visa I just received was truly a renewal, or a new one (I'm concerned because I will be applying for the F2-99 later). I don't think he caught the distincion, so instead I asked the official whether this visa had the same visa number as before. He curtly replied that there is no such thing as a visa number, my visa was a renewal, and don't worry.

Later, I dug around in my passport, and confirmed two things. (a) my original visa and subsequent renewals DID actually have visa numbers, and (b) the numbers were all different, even though these technically are "the same" visa.

So, just curious, how is it established that one has had the same visa over a time span, if the visa number itself changes even when it is renewed? Has anyone run into this before?

Also, now that my visa is electronic, can I assume the visa dates now automatically align with the ARC card dates?
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Wildbore



Joined: 17 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pacificman wrote:
Just curious about what the definition of five (or seven in my case) years on "the same" visa actually means. I recently renewed my D-8 visa, and was shocked when they didn't give me a physical visa. I was told it was a new method, and my visa was "in the system". I interpreted this to mean they are now using electronic visas. This got me to asking whether the "renewed" visa I just received was truly a renewal, or a new one (I'm concerned because I will be applying for the F2-99 later). I don't think he caught the distincion, so instead I asked the official whether this visa had the same visa number as before. He curtly replied that there is no such thing as a visa number, my visa was a renewal, and don't worry.

Later, I dug around in my passport, and confirmed two things. (a) my original visa and subsequent renewals DID actually have visa numbers, and (b) the numbers were all different, even though these technically are "the same" visa.

So, just curious, how is it established that one has had the same visa over a time span, if the visa number itself changes even when it is renewed? Has anyone run into this before?

Also, now that my visa is electronic, can I assume the visa dates now automatically align with the ARC card dates?


Right, they don't give you visas because you just kept extending or modifying your initial one. Basically, if you had the same ARC card for 7 years (and didn't change status, from example from an E visa to a D), and never cancelled your ARC at any point as well, then this visa may be an option for you.
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pacificman



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that hasn't been my experience, at least up until last week. Every renewal they put a physical visa in my passport. I assumed it was the same visa number, just with new dates (until I checked this week).
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sm



Joined: 23 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: F2-99 Reply with quote

I asked at immigration today when I renewed my E2 for the requirements regarding the F2-99 and she told me the following:

1. At least 30 mil won in savings including real estate (like key money)
2. Your salary is at least the previous year's GNI (2011 was 24,920,000)
3. At least STOPIK level 2 or higher OR the social integration program
4. 5 years or more on the same visa & something about if you've left for longer than 1 month they subtract some (I couldn't exactly hear what she said as it was noisy & her voice was low)

If you want to move directly to an E2 to an F5 the requirements are all the same but you need to show 2 times the GNI of the previous year.

I asked her: Once you're able to get the F2-99, how many years do you stay on that before you're allowed to apply for an F5? She said 5 years but that doesn't seem right. Isn't it more like 2-3 years? Anyone know?
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littlelisa



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have (or can easily get) all of the requirements for the F2-99, but I have one problem. I reach the 5 years on one visa mark in February, however I have an opportunity to teach (should know for sure in the next few days) at an international school, which means that I'd give notice at my current school and switch to the international one. Apparently then I would be getting an E7 visa, but the school (and the teacher I talked to) said that it's possible, with a letter of release from my current school, to transfer my current visa to an E7 one. Would that mean that I'd have to start all over again, or is it possible that with a transfer from one visa to another it might still be counted as one visa? Does anyone know?

I'm assuming that it wouldn't be counted as the same visa. Sad

Also, is it even possible for international schools to sponsor someone on an E2 (in case it makes a difference, it's still an EFL position because it's not an English language international school). I'm fairly sure if it were possible for them to hire me on an E2 that they would try as long as it wasn't much more complicated or costly for them.

I guess it's pretty bad timing for switching schools.
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littlelisa



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Called immigration and they said that as long as the visa is transferred you can combine time between e2 and e7 visas and don't have to restart counting from the start of the e7. Adding the info here in case it helps someone else.
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