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timhorton
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I cannot believe how this CANNOT be prosecuted. Since when are children able to decide if an adult (teacher - person in a position of trust) will be prosecuted or not. I am now a lawyer but this situation needs the full force of the law. SHAME!!!!
The ONLY other explantion is the parents have been hushed$$. |
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IamBabo
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:51 am Post subject: Assault |
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I just finished watching 도가니 (Silenced, in English) if you really want to get your blood boiling about perps not getting punished. It is based on a true story and is very graphic..
Don't forget that the age of consent is 13, maybe she was of that age?? |
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nora
Joined: 14 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Regarding the crime/not crime/prosecuting the guy:
Sure, he CAN be prosecuted without the girls help, but they won't secure a conviction. They probably don't have any concrete evidence. Sure, text messages, rumors, et cetera, but without a person on the stand saying "he did this to me," they have nothing that will convict.
As a tax payer, I'm glad they aren't prosecuting him - it's not a case they can win without the support of the girl. Don't waste our money.
That said - yeah, the whole system needs some help. Counselors to convince victims to testify, a better attitude by all involved, etc. |
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ghostrider
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Regarding the crime/not crime/prosecuting the guy:
Sure, he CAN be prosecuted without the girls help, but they won't secure a conviction. They probably don't have any concrete evidence. Sure, text messages, rumors, et cetera, but without a person on the stand saying "he did this to me," they have nothing that will convict.
As a tax payer, I'm glad they aren't prosecuting him - it's not a case they can win without the support of the girl. Don't waste our money.
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Baloney. That's not what the Korea Times article said. |
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Lazio
Joined: 15 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Because it's up to the victim whether or not her attacker is prosecuted. The teacher may have privately made a deal with the family to pay a certain amount of money in exchange for not pressing charges. |
No it is not. Adult having sexual intercourse with a minor will be prosecuted. It doesn't matter if they live together in a relationship, both willingly participated or even have a child together etc.
Wife says she is an orphan or some sort so no parents and obviously she has some issues due to this fact and he took advantage of it. The guy will face prosecution. |
The article said:
"In the girl�s case, police couldn�t bring any charges against the teacher because she didn�t want him to be punished." |
Other articles (written in Korean) claim that he will face prosecution. |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Next time the apologists on here say there's no crime in Korea, or that kids have nothing to fear at schools here (unlike the US) or that crimes are not covered up here, can we have a link to this?
I realize this is one case, and I'm not saying it's everywhere. But it's indicative of so many of the problems that are present in Korea. |
Who said there's no crime in Korea?
I guess you have not seen that thread on that other site, which must not be mentioned here, about crimes committed by Koreans in other countries. The website includes "expat" in the name. Believe, Koreans commit a lot of crimes abroad as well as at home.
Dunno why I'm bringing this up. I got issues. The sanctimonious nature of lots of people got to me.
I shudder to imagine if a foreign man in Korea had sex with a 12 year old Korean girl. I guess the world would explode. |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Quoted: "Expats, the next time a Korean tells you that he or she feels Korea is an "advanced" country, bring this up and see what the response is. "
Everybody knows, baby got new clothes, but lately I see her ribbons and her bows.
Happens everywhere. |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| nora wrote: |
| Sure, he CAN be prosecuted without the girls help, but they won't secure a conviction. They probably don't have any concrete evidence. Sure, text messages, rumors, et cetera, but without a person on the stand saying "he did this to me," they have nothing that will convict. |
I think someone grew up watching a little too much Law and Order. Different legal systems, honey. How can you be so concrete in your assertion that "they have nothing that will convict" him "without a person on the stand", when she admitted to having sex with him? And, especially, when, according to the article:
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Last month, the National Assembly approved a revision to the Criminal Law, under which all sex offenders will be prosecuted regardless of whether there is a complaint from their victims. The previous law stated that sex offenders could only be prosecuted if the victim filed a formal complaint.
In the girl�s case, police couldn�t bring any charges against the teacher because she didn�t want him to be punished. |
Does that mean that they won't be prosecuted if there is an endorsement from their victims? I don't know when this particular event occurred, so maybe it was before this new "law" was passed. Not sure if that plays any role in this.
The Korea Times is such garbage, though. Look at those two paragraphs: Last month a new statute states that all sex offenders will be prosecuted... but in this case, the police couldn't bring any charges against him, even though she admitted to having sex with him because she loved him. She's 12, this sick freak is 29, another Korean legal system failure, and another shameful, disgusting cultural mark on this society that will likely be quietly tucked under the $rug$.
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| Everybody knows, baby got new clothes, but lately I see her ribbons and her bows. |
Great song... but, ugh... confused about the relevance and context... am I in the Thailand forum  |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I cannot believe how this CANNOT be prosecuted. Since when are children able to decide if an adult (teacher - person in a position of trust) will be prosecuted or not. I am now a lawyer but this situation needs the full force of the law. SHAME!!!!
The ONLY other explantion is the parents have been hushed$$. |
He is being prosecuted.
http://news.nate.com/view/20121208n01147 |
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Unibrow
Joined: 20 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| He should be prosecuted but castration and life in jail/execution are a bit much, though it is a disgusting crime. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| timhorton wrote: |
I cannot believe how this CANNOT be prosecuted. Since when are children able to decide if an adult (teacher - person in a position of trust) will be prosecuted or not. I am now a lawyer but this situation needs the full force of the law. SHAME!!!!
The ONLY other explantion is the parents have been hushed$$. |
He is being prosecuted.
http://news.nate.com/view/20121208n01147 |
No, it sounds like they're saying they'll think it over.
not the same at all. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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Yeah, I was wondering about that - have charged actually been laid against this guy??
And better question - can he still teach? I mean, sure he was fired from his job, but with no criminal record, could he not simply get another job teaching kids again? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Wife says the news was talking about it tonight - says he's now charged. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:10 am Post subject: |
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Next time the apologists on here say there's no crime in Korea, or that kids have nothing to fear at schools here (unlike the US) or that crimes are not covered up here, can we have a link to this?
I realize this is one case, and I'm not saying it's everywhere. But it's indicative of so many of the problems that are present in Korea. |
I'd ask for a link where "the apologists on here" have stated that there is "no crime in Korea or that kids have nothing to fear at schools"
But we both know that they haven't said that.
As for crimes being covered now the news states he is being charged..so a link to this will not exactly be the grand home run slam you were hoping for.
Next time you read something like this how about waiting and seeing how things actually turn out BEFORE pontificating? |
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