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Shut Up - the poll :)
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A teacher telling a student to "shut up" is...
Very rude
31%
 31%  [ 20 ]
Rude
30%
 30%  [ 19 ]
Nothing special
9%
 9%  [ 6 ]
Acceptable
26%
 26%  [ 17 ]
Expected
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
I'm scared to answer 'cuz you might tell me to shut up
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 63

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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:30 am    Post subject: Shut Up - the poll :) Reply with quote

I think there's a divergence of opinion on this. Not sure if it's cultural, or generational. So, let's put it to a poll.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say it's unprofessional language that doesn't belong in the classroom. There are other ways to make your point without resorting to wrestler speak.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember hearing it a lot at secondary school (Britain, in the early 2000s) and never thinking twice about it. I've said it a few times to my kids here. I would never tell my parents to shut up, but I wouldn't tell them to be quiet either

Shut up Stan Rogers
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is rude and a Teacher has many others ways to tell a student to be quiet.
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I won't vote but as a conversation teacher, I wish they would stop shutting up.
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frankhenry



Joined: 13 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssshhhhhh class! for the 19th time
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not swearing or cursing so...its ok to use occasionally.

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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I don't get is why it's perfectly acceptable (as in nothing ever happens to the Korean teacher) for the Korean teachers to tell the students in Korean "shut up" but it's practically the End of the World if a foreign teacher says that in English.
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fustiancorduroy



Joined: 12 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't use shut up to my students. It is rude and unprofessional. It shows the students that you are frustrated and do not have the teaching skills necessary to make them quiet in any other way. I can't see a qualified, experienced teacher ever using it in the classroom.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squire wrote:
I remember hearing it a lot at secondary school (Britain, in the early 2000s) and never thinking twice about it. I've said it a few times to my kids here. I would never tell my parents to shut up, but I wouldn't tell them to be quiet either

Shut up Stan Rogers


This isn't the classroom, so Squire you shut your mouth.
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Nester Noodlemon



Joined: 16 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shuuut uuuup. Now can hear a mouse pizzing on cotton.

Open your books. Teaching and learning begins.

I'm qualified, the students are learning, and the parents are happy.

I've never had a problem being asked to sign on for another year, the offer has always been there. And yes, 9/10 of the kids always seem to like me. Often they will follow me around in the school or outside when they see me.
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fustiancorduroy



Joined: 12 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nester Noodlemon wrote:
Shuuut uuuup. Now can hear a mouse pizzing on cotton.

Open your books. Teaching and learning begins.

I'm qualified, the students are learning, and the parents are happy.

I've never had a problem being asked to sign on for another year, the offer has always been there. And yes, 9/10 of the kids always seem to like me. Often they will follow me around in the school or outside when they see me.


Why can't you just say "Be quiet!"? I do that. It works. It's not rude. It still gets the point across. I dunno. To me, shut up seems like something a very uneducated person would say. I don't think I've used it since I was a teenager, myself. Maybe I'm getting old. I'm 29, after all.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
What I don't get is why it's perfectly acceptable (as in nothing ever happens to the Korean teacher) for the Korean teachers to tell the students in Korean "shut up" but it's practically the End of the World if a foreign teacher says that in English.


Do the k-teachers say it much around you/within ear shot?
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working in boys' schools you'll find all k-male teachers, and I mean all male teacher, will be use pretty rude Korean to get their boys to shut up. (Ex. dak-chyeo sageeya)

As for me, saying quiet, clapping your hands, and other polite methods don't work 9/10 times, so saying "shut up" is usually pretty fast and effective instead of spending 10 minutes for them to calm down.

Although I start up with a loud 'quiet' which usually works. However sometimes I do pull out the 'shut up' card.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, would not a "QUIET!" - (with a booming voice) carry the same power?
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