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2.3 for this univ gig?
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:59 am    Post subject: 2.3 for this univ gig? Reply with quote

man the market must be saturated given the app process for this job

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=55247

to do all that for 2.3/month and in Andong

thing is I bet they get 500 apps for it.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ridiculous. As if the people doing the hiring are going to bother to plough through all that stuff. Why don't they just ask the people they short
list to provide it to save everyone's time? Mind you for those wages they might find it's not such an onerous task after all.
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timhorton



Joined: 07 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a good one for a newb to get a foot in the door! The lenghty application process may decrease competition Wink
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to almost always associate Andong University with bad news. I used to jog all the way up there when I lived in Andong. It is quite remote. I guess the best thing about the place are the pretty chicks that go to school there...but that applies to any university so no big deal I guess.
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newb



Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timhorton wrote:
It's a good one for a newb to get a foot in the door! The lenghty application process may decrease competition Wink


No, it ain't. Razz
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

newb wrote:
timhorton wrote:
It's a good one for a newb to get a foot in the door! The lenghty application process may decrease competition Wink


No, it ain't. Razz


It seems like a good way to get your syllabi made up for free for next semester though, doesn't it?
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diver wrote:
newb wrote:
timhorton wrote:
It's a good one for a newb to get a foot in the door! The lenghty application process may decrease competition Wink


No, it ain't. Razz


It seems like a good way to get your syllabi made up for free for next semester though, doesn't it?


Good point! Very Happy
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much do you want to bet some of those writings that are required will be plagairized by somebody.
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thrylos



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How much do you want to bet some of those writings that are required will be plagairized by somebody.


My thoughts exactly. I would have no problems preparing the info for an interview, but there's no way in h_e_l_l I would trust anyone, especially in Korea, with all that prep work and not even guaranteed an interview.

Good luck to the suckers that are applying, maybe you'll see all your work in a textbook in the coming months. Wink
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mumblebee



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Location: Andong

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey folks, I work in this dept (until the end of the year) and I just wanted to assure people that it is a pretty good job, and the pay is the same pay you would get at any public uni...not the greatest, but what can ya do?

Vacation time is great, and the students are all English Ed majors; their English level is quite good for it being lil' old Andong. You have a huge amount of freedom in your teaching, and the students are pretty motivated. I have taught the incoming freshies for the past year, and they were wonderful, motivated and fun students. Of course, they get more cynical as they age, but these guys were super-sweet compared to my freshies in Seoul...

I submitted the same stuff required here with my original application. It took me about an hour to pull it together. I consider a decent job opportunity worth an hour of time. If you are well-qualified for the position, you will not have too much trouble getting this kind of application together, since you will almost certainly have syllabi, lesson plans etc. from previous jobs. If this kind of application seems like an overly onerous task, then it could be a sign that you are not the best qualified for the job. More and more unis are starting to ask for this kind of portfolio, as the market gets more competive, and hirers are starting to look beyond the name of your alma mater.

As someone who has assisted with hiring for specialized TESOL jobs I can say that while this kind of application seems like a bit of trouble from the applicants POV, it is a REAL time saver when sifting through the 100s of resumes that land on your desk. With a smaller set of these porfolios in hand, it becomes pretty easy to determine who is best qualified, to say nothing of highlighting those applicants who are willing to 'play ball' versus those who resist and complain about anything perceived as "extra work." If I was hiring again, I would ask for a similar portfolio, although I would prolly ask different questions.


Andong is a pretty small little place, but I ended up liking it a whole lot. The apts are one-rooms, but nice, and there is very good bus service in town. AND...there are practically NO mosquitos here; not sure exactly why, but I smacked only one mosquito the whole year. Anyway, I enjoyed my time here a great deal.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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