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Please explain Korean 'regionalism' for me.
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newb



Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:

Google Korea's Three Kingdom Period and start reading.


+1

As a foreigner, you'd have to study both ancient and modern Korean history to really understand the Korean regionalism.
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goreality



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 kingdoms is taking it back a little far, butyeah essentially shilla was focused in the southwest and baekjae was south east.
Mostly postwar 70s and 80s democracy movements explain why it continues.
Also why can't a small 'homogeneous' country have divisions, look at European countries.
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bangbayed



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goreality wrote:
3 kingdoms is taking it back a little far, butyeah essentially shilla was focused in the southwest and baekjae was south east.
Mostly postwar 70s and 80s democracy movements explain why it continues.
Also why can't a small 'homogeneous' country have divisions, look at European countries.


Exactly. Just watch Game of Thrones.
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Smithington



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Simon Winchester's book 'Korea: A walk though the land of miracles' is a good read.


I've read several books on Korean history over the years. I've seen Winchester's book in bookstores but I've never picked it up. I just can't get myself to read a book with such a nauseating title. "Korea: A walk through the Land of Miracles." Rolling Eyes If Arirang TV ever publishes a book on Korean history it will have a similarly barf-inducing title. Regardless of how good the book might be, the title kills it for me. Sorry.

Can anyone recommend another book on Korean regionalism not published by the Korean Department of Progaganda?
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Summary of Korean people written by the 14th century scholar, Jeong Do-jeon. (translated by me)

source: http://blog.daum.net/gocj82/1831649

People from Hamgyeong-do (NE North Korea) : stubborn, strong-willed and patient.
People from Pyeongan-do (NW North Korea) : combative, emotional, makes sudden judgments without thinking, emotionally strong however impatient.
People from Hwanghae-do (SW North Korea) : industrious, but loud and patient.
People from Gangweon-do : stereotypical "Good Samaritans", honest, doesn't care about the secular world.
People from Gyeonggi-do : stereotypical Japanese "honne and tatemae" mentality, but loves honor and socialize.
People from Chungcheong-do : loves the nature and relaxation (pungryu in Korean), calm, doesn't like competition, loves the natural order, loves benevolence and positivism, loves the social duty.
People from Gyeongsang-do: rude, stubborn, but trustworthy.
People from Jeolla-do: loves the nature and relaxation (pungryu in Korean), adaptable, has weak will, but sociable and soft-hearted.
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northway



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Simon Winchester's book 'Korea: A walk though the land of miracles' is a good read.


I've read several books on Korean history over the years. I've seen Winchester's book in bookstores but I've never picked it up. I just can't get myself to read a book with such a nauseating title. "Korea: A walk through the Land of Miracles." Rolling Eyes If Arirang TV ever publishes a book on Korean history it will have a similarly barf-inducing title. Regardless of how good the book might be, the title kills it for me. Sorry.

Can anyone recommend another book on Korean regionalism not published by the Korean Department of Progaganda?


This is extremely unfair. The "land of miracles" aspect of the title is in reference to Korea's swift rise to being an industrial powerhouse. It isn't some "Korea sparkling" nonsense, as it is truly amazing how fast Korea went from being an undeveloped country of poor farmers to a highly urbanized society and world leader in the export of manufactured goods. It's a great book with a pretty balanced view of the country, if you're going to let your biases prevent you from reading the book because you assume that it must have an agenda, that's your loss.
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motiontodismiss



Joined: 18 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
It isn't some "Korea sparkling" nonsense


"Korea Sparkling" came from some idiot civil servant working for the Ministry of Culture and Sports. They were gonna go with "Dynamic Korea" but apparently that made it sound too "volatile" or whatever the hell it was. I know someone who worked there on a one-year contract. She lasted three months.

Korea Sparkling's just retarded though. Makes the whole country sound like a barbie doll house, when in reality it's much uglier than that.
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detonate



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taylormade wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Simon Winchester's book 'Korea: A walk though the land of miracles' is a good read.


Cheers.


I liked some of the amazon reviews for that book XD
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have friends who don't like people from Gyeongsamnam-do too much. On a visit to Jinju they explained the political situation while casting dark looks at the infrastructure and local transport

Sometimes I've told people that I hate people from Gyeongsamnam-do. I'm not sure if they knew I was joking. I wonder what they thought of me Laughing
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, people from Myeongdong think think they're better than people from Gangnam and Vice Versa. Ha ha....
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squire wrote:
I have friends who don't like people from Gyeongsamnam-do too much. On a visit to Jinju they explained the political situation while casting dark looks at the infrastructure and local transport

Sometimes I've told people that I hate people from Gyeongsamnam-do. I'm not sure if they knew I was joking. I wonder what they thought of me Laughing


My mother is from Gyeongsang-do. She had often said to me that Gyeongsang-do is a cursed land. I always wondered why. Now that I got older and wiser, I finally understood what she meant.
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bangbayed



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NohopeSeriously wrote:
Squire wrote:
I have friends who don't like people from Gyeongsamnam-do too much. On a visit to Jinju they explained the political situation while casting dark looks at the infrastructure and local transport

Sometimes I've told people that I hate people from Gyeongsamnam-do. I'm not sure if they knew I was joking. I wonder what they thought of me Laughing


My mother is from Gyeongsang-do. She had often said to me that Gyeongsang-do is a cursed land. I always wondered why. Now that I got older and wiser, I finally understood what she meant.


Gyeongsangdo is King's Landing.
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PRagic



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While there are farther reaching historical reasons touched upon by earlier posters, contemporary regionalism has stemmed largely from post-Korean war economic policies that, particularly under the earlier Chun and Rho regimes, favoured some of the regions as the expense of others.
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PRagic



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...make that the Park, Chun, and Rho regimes....
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Unibrow



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might surprise you, but nearly every country in the world has regionalism. I suppose people in Andorra make fun of the yokels on the other side of the mountain.
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